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Here we go ...
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RE: Here we go ...
(January 29, 2023 at 4:35 pm)Justin Case Wrote:
(January 29, 2023 at 4:15 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Where are we going? Yes, some people suffer from psychopathy but what does this have to do with spirituality?

The guy in the video said that he discovered that he is a psychopath, and I have seen several videos made by different psychopaths that don't do bad (evil) things, so what is your point?

As I said ... "There are people in this position who have not gone down the "evil" route, and this video is the best example." He's a scientist ... he had a good upbringing ... he's not "evil" ... but, like all non-empathics, if you know what you are looking for - they're REALLY easy to spot.

Yeah, people with a good upbringing usually don't choose a life of crime (evil), even psychopaths, like this woman.



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#12
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I am not a psychologist, but from watching Criminal Minds, childhood abuse is likely to bring out the criminal in a psychopath.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#13
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(January 29, 2023 at 11:04 pm)brewer Wrote:
(January 29, 2023 at 4:54 pm)Justin Case Wrote: There is a genetic picture to these cases ... in fact it was brought up in the vid. Granted, some problems seem to pop up from out of nowhere, but in the above case, it was in the family.

Don't you mean some cases? I didn't view the "above case". 

You might want to look at causes of sociopathy personality traits. Just because it recurs in a family does not necessarily mean its genetic.

Here is an example of potential causes: https://psychcentral.com/blog/caregivers...ciopathy#1

If you read number one ... it's about genes. If you follow that link, it goes into the James Fallon story that was on the video I posted - and I hope it returns since it's been removed.
"...and I saw clearly that men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms, whereas they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence."
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#14
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(January 29, 2023 at 11:30 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(January 29, 2023 at 4:35 pm)Justin Case Wrote: As I said ... "There are people in this position who have not gone down the "evil" route, and this video is the best example." He's a scientist ... he had a good upbringing ... he's not "evil" ... but, like all non-empathics, if you know what you are looking for - they're REALLY easy to spot.

Yeah, people with a good upbringing usually don't choose a life of crime (evil), even psychopaths, like this woman.

If I had followed the genetics in my family, I'd be on that "evil" list too ... but fortunately I don't have that problem. My mother was a violent narcissist, and believe me life with her was a mess. If I had turned out like her, me and my brothers would probably be on the wanted list LOL.

But getting back to the original idea of this thread ... since writing began, all bad / evil in the world (including everyday things like storms) were all linked to the negative spiritual world as a source. Today we know differently. This is the difference between thinking and guessing, and then passing on this unverified "information" as truth. From here we enter the picture via the difference between classical teaching and constructivism. The religious elite "guessed" and this information could not be looked into by the common people, so classical teaching (here's the answers - just remember what I'm telling you) was the approach. Today we have the information for this topic via brain scans and medical studies, and now constructivism (YOU look for the answers) has replaced the classical teaching method.

Regarding "atheism" ... I wonder how things would go if historical hard data was used to figure out the answer?
"...and I saw clearly that men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms, whereas they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence."
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#15
RE: Here we go ...
(January 30, 2023 at 5:10 pm)Justin Case Wrote:
(January 29, 2023 at 11:04 pm)brewer Wrote: Don't you mean some cases? I didn't view the "above case". 

You might want to look at causes of sociopathy personality traits. Just because it recurs in a family does not necessarily mean its genetic.

Here is an example of potential causes: https://psychcentral.com/blog/caregivers...ciopathy#1

If you read number one ... it's about genes. If you follow that link, it goes into the James Fallon story that was on the video I posted - and I hope it returns since it's been removed.

So you're going to stick with genetics only? If so, then it's not worth continuing to talk to you.

See Ya!
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#16
RE: Here we go ...
(January 29, 2023 at 4:54 pm)Justin Case Wrote:
(January 29, 2023 at 4:49 pm)brewer Wrote: Not all brain "glitche"(s), including lack of empathy, are genetic.

There is a genetic picture to these cases ... in fact it was brought up in the vid. Granted, some problems seem to pop up from out of nowhere, but in the above case, it was in the family.

There is much more to "evil" than this. Do you think every single Nazi soldier was born a psychopath, or did evil deeds because of brain chemistry that "popped up from out of nowhere?"
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#17
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(January 30, 2023 at 5:47 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(January 29, 2023 at 4:54 pm)Justin Case Wrote: There is a genetic picture to these cases ... in fact it was brought up in the vid. Granted, some problems seem to pop up from out of nowhere, but in the above case, it was in the family.

There is much more to "evil" than this. Do you think every single Nazi soldier was born a psychopath, or did evil deeds because of brain chemistry that "popped up from out of nowhere?"

No - there are followers too. All "soldiers" in any war are in the same boat. All you need is one ... like Putin. Everybody else does all the dirty work.
"...and I saw clearly that men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms, whereas they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence."
Fabre D'Olivet
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#18
RE: Here we go ...
(January 30, 2023 at 5:35 pm)brewer Wrote:
(January 30, 2023 at 5:10 pm)Justin Case Wrote: If you read number one ... it's about genes. If you follow that link, it goes into the James Fallon story that was on the video I posted - and I hope it returns since it's been removed.

So you're going to stick with genetics only? If so, then it's not worth continuing to talk to you.

See Ya!

Bye.
"...and I saw clearly that men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms, whereas they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence."
Fabre D'Olivet
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#19
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At any rate, the idea is that "evil" has been passed down through the millennia as having a particular source - which boils down to "spiritual." Today we know that's not true, although there is another subject that needs to be "personally" looked into - and that's the paranormal. You can't use other people's experiences to study this paranormal subject - you have to get YOUR OWN information. I did - and I'll say what's said about this subject is true ... 'be careful when you open the door - you never know who's gonna walk in.' The idea is, the things that happen to adults and children are identical to the non-empathic approach we have here. I wonder why.

Anyway, if hard data can take this one idea (evil) and straighten it out, what can it do for us regarding another subject that's been handed down to us ... "GOD." My question is - does GOD exist, and if you don't think so I'd really like to hear why. I've never had a discussion about this, and I'm curious how you've arrived at your conclusions. BTW - I have mine ... and we can get into that later.
"...and I saw clearly that men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms, whereas they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence."
Fabre D'Olivet
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#20
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Paranormal - this should go well.
  
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