Hindu vs Christain

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"That, as bahai nutters contend as an article of their faith, all religions are ultimately their religion."

What's a bahai nutter?

The Baháʼí Faith has three central figures: the Báb (1819–1850), considered a herald who taught his followers that God would soon send a prophet similar to Jesus or Muhammad and who was executed by Iranian authorities in 1850; Baháʼu'lláh (1817–1892), who claimed to be that prophet in 1863 and faced exile and imprisonment for most of his life; and his son, ʻAbdu'l-Bahá (1844–1921), who was released from confinement in 1908 and made teaching trips to Europe and the United States. After ʻAbdu'l-Bahá's death in 1921, the leadership of the religion fell to his grandson Shoghi Effendi (1897–1957). Baháʼís annually elect local, regional, and national Spiritual Assemblies that govern the religion's affairs, and every five years an election is held for the Universal House of Justice, the nine-member supreme governing institution of the worldwide Baháʼí community that is located in Haifa, Israel, near the Shrine of the Báb.

According to Baháʼí teachings, religion is revealed in an orderly and progressive way by a single God through Manifestations of God, who are the founders of major world religions throughout history; Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad are noted as the most recent of these, before the Báb and Baháʼu'lláh. Baháʼís regard the world's major religions as fundamentally unified in purpose, though diverging in social practices and interpretations. The Baháʼí Faith stresses the unity of people which is its core teaching. The outward differences in the religions, the Baháʼí writings state, are due to the exigencies of the time and place the religion was revealed. The teaching, however, does not equate unity with uniformity, but instead the Baháʼí writings advocate for the principle of unity in diversity where the variety in the human race is valued.[14][15][16] Baháʼís have their own sacred scripture, interpretations, laws and practices that, for Baháʼís, supersede those of other faiths.[17][18]

TLDR: Basically a Moorman before those nutters? Aka: Old Testimate Moorman? Or New Testimate Moorman?

[purplepurpose]

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According to Baháʼí teachings, religion is revealed in an orderly and progressive way by a single God through Manifestations of God, who are the founders of major world religions throughout history; Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad are noted as the most recent of these, before the Báb and Baháʼu'lláh. 

TLDR: Basically a Moorman before those nutters? Aka: Old Testimate Moorman? Or New Testimate Moorman?

I didn't understood your replay. Plus I shortened my first answer. Read it.

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TLDR: Basically a Moorman before those nutters? Aka: Old Testimate Moorman? Or New Testimate Moorman?

I didn't understood your replay. Plus I shortened my first answer. Read it.

So they are basically like the Morons. The Morons have a relax attitude towards the other faiths and don't say that shit isn't true or that profit isn't real. They accept them all and say we got the most up to date text folks, check it out!. Just took some magic god glasses that we lost, sorry dudes. Sounds like they are taking the same approach.

[purplepurpose]

I didn't understood your replay. Plus I shortened my first answer. Read it.

So they are basically like the Morons. The Morons have a relax attitude towards the other faiths and don't say that shit isn't true or that profit isn't real. They accept them all and say we got the most up to date text folks, check it out!. Just took some magic god glasses that we lost, sorry dudes. Sounds like they are taking the same approach.

 They accept them all and say we got the most up to date text folks, check it out! - Yes!

Edit: Muslims have the same attitude.

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Punk ass bitches.

[John 6IX Breezy]

Why, if your one or the other, don't you believe in one or the other? 

The first reason is probably lack of exposure. Ideas and information aren't always free flowing, they cluster into pockets and populations. You can't switch to a belief system you're not sufficiently in contact with.

The second reason can be loosely adapted from Quine's "Web of Belief" metaphor. I think we construct our reality from the moment we're born. Meaning that as we encounter ideas and observations, we connect them in our brains in such a way as to produce a stable structure (a web) that represents reality.

What happens by the time we're adults is that this structure is heavily interconnected. It is very difficult, if not impossible, to overhaul the entire structure. Instead we can make changes to the exterior of the web without tampering with the core too much.

This is in part why I believe the best way to change someone's mind or perspective, isn't to present them with data and information, it's to construct a custom chunk of web that can integrate into and reshape theirs.

This is why narrative is so powerful and persuasive. We're expert sense making machines. We can detect when a piece of data doesn't make sense within our structure. We couldn't survive if we didn't filter out the noise. But the focus of narrative isn't the raw facts, it's how those facts make sense within the web that the story is weaving. And we can incorporate that narrative into our web much easier.

[Angrboda]

Good example.  The abrahamic god does appear to demand an exclusive relationship - but it's been as true over history as it is today that abrahamics themselves are not so good at exclusivity.  Alot of self professed christians would be fine with the idea that, somehow - other peoples god stories weren't wrong in general, just wrong on detail.  That, as bahai nutters contend as an article of their faith, all religions are ultimately their religion.

That didn't stop strains of universalism cropping up within Christianity.

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Why, if your one or the other, don't you believe in one or the other? 

Quine's "Web of Belief" metaphor. I think we construct our reality from the moment we're born. Meaning that as we encounter ideas and observations, we connect them in our brains in such a way as to produce a stable structure (a web) that represents reality.

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This is in part why I believe the best way to change someone's mind or perspective, isn't to present them with data and information, it's to construct a custom chunk of web that can integrate into and reshape theirs.

So is this Quine's Web idea just the flavor of the month or is their real science behind it?

Also if your all about telling a story to construct a web "chunk" as you claim why didn't you even attempt that at all in your post?

[John 6IX Breezy]

Hmm Quine is a philosopher of science, so he is in some sense asking how science itself works. If I remember correctly his web of belief metaphor is looking at empiricism, or how scientific theories work, and how they change when they come into contact with observation.

As to why I didn't write a story, because that's time consuming and not the only way to exchange ideas.

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Hmm Quine is a philosopher of science, so he is in some sense asking how science itself works. If I remember correctly his web of belief metaphor is looking at empiricism, or how scientific theories work, and how they change when they come into contact with observation.

As to why I didn't write a story, because that's time consuming and not the only way to exchange ideas.

Help me out here. I might have the wrong dude. But I googled your man "Quine". This came up: 

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So, Quine takes the traditional problem of the epistemology (had to look this one up: the theory of knowledge, especially with regard to its methods, validity, and scope. Epistemology is the investigation of what distinguishes justified belief from opinion.) of empirical knowledge and interprets it in exclusively scientific terms. From this viewpoint, epistemological problems need to be reformulated according to those standards of clarity, evidence and explanation that are found in science.
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Isn't that just a fancy way of saying proven by the scientific method? If so what does that have to do with webs and stories and such? It sounds like this guy was pretty grounded in facts and evidence based conclusions.

Also feel free to address me as you would a drooling toddler. I make no claim to being a brainiac or intellectual.

Edit: Also should have opened with this. Thank you for your time and attention. I assure you it is not waisted. Misplaced maybe, but not waisted.