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My Revelation
July 17, 2023 at 4:44 pm
Since my last post here I attended a bible study and had an unpleasant revelation. It came to me as we read Ephesians 4:15 which reads: "Instead, speaking the truth in LOVE, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is Christ".
It hit me that I've been speaking what I believe to be the truth, but coming off as very unloving. The truth is that I do love immigrants and LBGTQ individuals and everybody else, but have different ideas to help and better everyone in our society.
When discussing and debating issues I tend to focus narrowly on the issue at hand. As long as I'm not spewing hatred I assume that others will not think of me as hateful. Anyway, In the future I will try to express my feelings in that regard as I make my points. I apologize to anyone I may have unintentionally hurt.
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RE: My Revelation
July 17, 2023 at 5:05 pm
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(July 17, 2023 at 4:44 pm)Lek Wrote: The truth is that I do love immigrants and LBGTQ individuals and everybody else, but have different ideas to help and better everyone in our society.
So you don't want to kill gays like the Bible commands? Or is it “Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin”? But what would you do if the sinner won't stop sinning no matter how much you "help" him?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: My Revelation
July 17, 2023 at 5:27 pm
(July 17, 2023 at 4:44 pm)Lek Wrote: Since my last post here I attended a bible study and had an unpleasant revelation. It came to me as we read Ephesians 4:15 which reads: "Instead, speaking the truth in LOVE, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is Christ".
It hit me that I've been speaking what I believe to be the truth, but coming off as very unloving. The truth is that I do love immigrants and LBGTQ individuals and everybody else, but have different ideas to help and better everyone in our society.
When discussing and debating issues I tend to focus narrowly on the issue at hand. As long as I'm not spewing hatred I assume that others will not think of me as hateful. Anyway, In the future I will try to express my feelings in that regard as I make my points. I apologize to anyone I may have unintentionally hurt.
I am going to hope that you meant what you just said.
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RE: My Revelation
July 17, 2023 at 5:42 pm
(July 17, 2023 at 4:44 pm)Lek Wrote: Since my last post here I attended a bible study and had an unpleasant revelation. It came to me as we read Ephesians 4:15 which reads: "Instead, speaking the truth in LOVE, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is Christ".
It hit me that I've been speaking what I believe to be the truth, but coming off as very unloving. The truth is that I do love immigrants and LBGTQ individuals and everybody else, but have different ideas to help and better everyone in our society.
When discussing and debating issues I tend to focus narrowly on the issue at hand. As long as I'm not spewing hatred I assume that others will not think of me as hateful. Anyway, In the future I will try to express my feelings in that regard as I make my points. I apologize to anyone I may have unintentionally hurt.
Fair enough.
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RE: My Revelation
July 17, 2023 at 5:46 pm
(July 17, 2023 at 5:05 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (July 17, 2023 at 4:44 pm)Lek Wrote: The truth is that I do love immigrants and LBGTQ individuals and everybody else, but have different ideas to help and better everyone in our society.
So you don't want to kill gays like the Bible commands? Or is it “Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin”? But what would you do if the sinner won't stop sinning no matter how much you "help" him?
No. I don't want to kill gays. I also can't stop anyone from sinning.
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RE: My Revelation
July 17, 2023 at 5:56 pm
There is no such thing as sin. It's all make believe.
Christibois have a difficult time not spewing ill-informed, dimwitted, hostility laden drivel.
Though, change is possible.
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RE: My Revelation
July 17, 2023 at 6:25 pm
(July 17, 2023 at 4:44 pm)Lek Wrote: Since my last post here I attended a bible study and had an unpleasant revelation. It came to me as we read Ephesians 4:15 which reads: "Instead, speaking the truth in LOVE, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is Christ".
It hit me that I've been speaking what I believe to be the truth, but coming off as very unloving. The truth is that I do love immigrants and LBGTQ individuals and everybody else, but have different ideas to help and better everyone in our society.
When discussing and debating issues I tend to focus narrowly on the issue at hand. As long as I'm not spewing hatred I assume that others will not think of me as hateful. Anyway, In the future I will try to express my feelings in that regard as I make my points. I apologize to anyone I may have unintentionally hurt.
It’s LGBTQ
I hear Xians remember it as Let God Burn Them Quick
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RE: My Revelation
July 17, 2023 at 6:27 pm
(July 17, 2023 at 5:56 pm)no one Wrote: There is no such thing as sin. It's all make believe.
Christibois have a difficult time not spewing ill-informed, dimwitted, hostility laden drivel.
Though, change is possible. Does immorality exist?
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RE: My Revelation
July 17, 2023 at 6:50 pm
(July 17, 2023 at 6:27 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 17, 2023 at 5:56 pm)no one Wrote: There is no such thing as sin. It's all make believe.
Christibois have a difficult time not spewing ill-informed, dimwitted, hostility laden drivel.
Though, change is possible. Does immorality exist?
Of course it does. What’s immorality got to do with sin?
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RE: My Revelation
July 17, 2023 at 6:53 pm
(July 17, 2023 at 6:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 17, 2023 at 6:27 pm)Lek Wrote: Does immorality exist?
Of course it does. What’s immorality got to do with sin?
Boru I consider doing something immoral as sinning.
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