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Scientific facts that freak me out.
#21
RE: Scientific facts that freak me out.
(November 8, 2023 at 10:00 pm)Jackalope Wrote: Solid objects are mostly empty space.

Empty space has way too much solid matter in it.
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#22
RE: Scientific facts that freak me out.
Jackalope:
Solid objects are mostly empty space.






Like Kirk Cameron's head?
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#23
RE: Scientific facts that freak me out.
all complex life on earth, from sophisticated insects to primitive creationists, own their existence to an chance occurance more than 2 billion years ago when one simple microbe ate another, but the one eaten failed to die inside its predator.
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#24
RE: Scientific facts that freak me out.
(November 8, 2023 at 9:16 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Particle wave duality

I forgot about that. I remember freaking out when I saw video of the double slit experiment, but enough about PornHub.
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#25
RE: Scientific facts that freak me out.
We may be simultaneously closer to and farther away from a theory of everything than we were in the past.

There is no scientific way to determine what are parts and what are wholes.

The philosophy of science, like science itself, is incomplete. It's like building the railroad while we use it.
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#26
RE: Scientific facts that freak me out.
(November 8, 2023 at 4:38 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(November 8, 2023 at 3:54 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Re #1. The range (color) in  the spectrum of light which we see reflected from the object in due to the color or physical properties of the object. An object painted black reflects that  range.
SO the way you phrase #1 is misleading.

No it is not. Atoms have no color, and molecules are made of atoms. It is the arrangement of the atoms that determines what gets absorbed and what bounces back to your eye and what bounces back to your eye is what we perceive as color.
Thanks for making my point. "It is the arrangement of the atoms" IN THE OBJECT that determines what is absorbed and what is reflected. 
The physical properites of the object ARE the arrangement of the atoms of the object.
It's NOT what is in the photons. Thanks for agreeing with me, and proving yourself wrong.

"Color, in this case, refers to the different wavelengths of light in the visible light spectrum perceived by our eyes. The physical and chemical composition of matter determines which wavelength (or color) is reflected." https://science.nasa.gov/ems/03_behaviors/

"Do all photons have the same frequency?
It is fundamentally impossible for a photon to have exactly one frequency. Certain beams of light, such as laser beams, can get very close to having one frequency, but can never have exactly one frequency. Said another way, every physical beam of light has a spread of frequencies".
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

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#27
RE: Scientific facts that freak me out.
(November 9, 2023 at 6:24 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(November 8, 2023 at 4:38 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No it is not. Atoms have no color, and molecules are made of atoms. It is the arrangement of the atoms that determines what gets absorbed and what bounces back to your eye and what bounces back to your eye is what we perceive as color.
Thanks for making my point. "It is the arrangement of the atoms" IN THE OBJECT that determines what is absorbed and what is reflected. 
The physical properites of the object ARE the arrangement of the atoms of the object.  
It's NOT what is in the photons. Thanks for agreeing with me, and proving yourself wrong.

"Color, in this case, refers to the different wavelengths of light in the visible light spectrum perceived by our eyes. The physical and chemical composition of matter determines which wavelength (or color) is reflected." https://science.nasa.gov/ems/03_behaviors/

"Do all photons have the same frequency?
It is fundamentally impossible for a photon to have exactly one frequency. Certain beams of light, such as laser beams, can get very close to having one frequency, but can never have exactly one frequency. Said another way, every physical beam of light has a spread of frequencies".

I didn't make your point, FYI I know all this. 

Color is not in atoms at all, it is in light. I know the arrangement of the molecular structure(chemical composition) determines what gets absorbed and what gets bounced back. 

I don't think we are on different wavelengths here. <---- See what I did there?
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#28
RE: Scientific facts that freak me out.
It is the distribution of the frequencies of the photos in the light hitting your eyes that determine what colors you see.     How the photons in the light come to acquire the distribution of frequencies is determined by how they where emitted in the first place, and the refracting, scattering and absorption properties of material the photons interacted with after they had been emitted.

When you say the arrangement of atoms in a material determines what frequencies gets absorbed and what gets reflected, you forget what frequency actually impinge upon the material also govern what frequencies gets absorbed and what gets reflected.   So the same arrangement of atoms at the same temperature will appear to the eye to be of a different color when it is shone upon by light of different color.      

In addition, it not just the arrangement of atoms in chemical or crystalline sense that affect what frequencies gets reflected or absorbed.   microscopic surface texture can create interference in the reflected light which also changes its what frequency is reflected, and what frequency is cancelled .    In this case, the color of the light reflected off the surface depends on geometry of the wave interference from different parts of the surface, and thus the apparent color depends on viewing angle and angle of incident light.
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#29
RE: Scientific facts that freak me out.
Maybe not freaking me out, but it was mind-blowing to discover that magenta isn't actually real, and that it's an optical illusion out brains create:



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#30
RE: Scientific facts that freak me out.
(November 9, 2023 at 10:34 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(November 9, 2023 at 6:24 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Thanks for making my point. "It is the arrangement of the atoms" IN THE OBJECT that determines what is absorbed and what is reflected. 
The physical properites of the object ARE the arrangement of the atoms of the object.  
It's NOT what is in the photons. Thanks for agreeing with me, and proving yourself wrong.

"Color, in this case, refers to the different wavelengths of light in the visible light spectrum perceived by our eyes. The physical and chemical composition of matter determines which wavelength (or color) is reflected." https://science.nasa.gov/ems/03_behaviors/

"Do all photons have the same frequency?
It is fundamentally impossible for a photon to have exactly one frequency. Certain beams of light, such as laser beams, can get very close to having one frequency, but can never have exactly one frequency. Said another way, every physical beam of light has a spread of frequencies".

I didn't make your point, FYI I know all this. 

Color is not in atoms at all, it is in light. I know the arrangement of the molecular structure(chemical composition) determines what gets absorbed and what gets bounced back. 

I don't think we are on different wavelengths here. <---- See what I did there?

Quote:"No it is not. Atoms have no color, and molecules are made of atoms. It is the arrangement of the atoms that determines what gets absorbed and what bounces back to your eye and what bounces back to your eye is what we perceive as color.

So which is it, (according to you) ?
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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