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RE: Eurovision 2024
May 12, 2024 at 4:39 pm
(May 12, 2024 at 4:13 pm)GUBU Wrote:
(May 12, 2024 at 12:36 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: So there you go, some trans guy from Switzerland won. Are we happy now?

Less unhappy than if Israel won.  They should have been kicked out, and after their shenanigans this year, they should be permanently kicked out.

I’m not sure of the wisdom of punishing Israeli performers for the actions of the Israeli government.

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RE: Eurovision 2024
May 12, 2024 at 4:41 pm
(May 12, 2024 at 4:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(May 12, 2024 at 4:13 pm)GUBU Wrote: Less unhappy than if Israel won.  They should have been kicked out, and after their shenanigans this year, they should be permanently kicked out.

I’m not sure of the wisdom of punishing Israeli performers for the actions of the Israeli government.

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RE: Eurovision 2024
May 12, 2024 at 4:43 pm
(May 12, 2024 at 4:41 pm)Foxaèr Wrote:
(May 12, 2024 at 4:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’m not sure of the wisdom of punishing Israeli performers for the actions of the Israeli government.

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Yes - I’m absolutely sure that I’m not sure.

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RE: Eurovision 2024
May 12, 2024 at 4:47 pm
(May 12, 2024 at 4:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(May 12, 2024 at 4:41 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: Are you sure?

Yes - I’m absolutely sure that I’m not sure.

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I'm more sure that your lack of assuredness is an absolute certainty of.fact regarding the subject matter.
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May 12, 2024 at 5:00 pm
(May 12, 2024 at 4:47 pm)Foxaèr Wrote:
(May 12, 2024 at 4:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yes - I’m absolutely sure that I’m not sure.

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I'm more sure that your lack of assuredness is an absolute certainty of.fact regarding the subject matter.

There are no absolutes, relatively speaking.

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RE: Eurovision 2024
May 12, 2024 at 5:02 pm
(May 12, 2024 at 5:00 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(May 12, 2024 at 4:47 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: I'm more sure that your lack of assuredness is an absolute certainty of.fact regarding the subject matter.

There are no absolutes, relatively speaking.

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RE: Eurovision 2024
May 13, 2024 at 2:42 pm
(May 12, 2024 at 4:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(May 12, 2024 at 4:13 pm)GUBU Wrote: Less unhappy than if Israel won.  They should have been kicked out, and after their shenanigans this year, they should be permanently kicked out.

I’m not sure of the wisdom of punishing Israeli performers for the actions of the Israeli government.

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May 13, 2024 at 3:43 pm (This post was last modified: May 13, 2024 at 3:48 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(May 13, 2024 at 2:42 pm)GUBU Wrote:
(May 12, 2024 at 4:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’m not sure of the wisdom of punishing Israeli performers for the actions of the Israeli government.

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It worked with South Africa.

You really think that kicking SA out of Eurovision had fuck all to do with the end of apartheid?? Concomitant to that, what are odds that if Israel had been kicked out, they’d stop butchering Palestinian civilians?

Even if it did (it didn’t), it’s still wrong to punish artists for the actions of their government.


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RE: Eurovision 2024
May 21, 2024 at 10:28 am
Ah, another useless demagogue is protecting us from the nonexistent problem

Quote:Erdogan called Eurovision a 'disgrace' and the contestants 'Trojan horses of social degeneration'

"One of the most obvious areas of global imposition is the politics of gender neutrality. We witnessed this on a grand scale at last week's Eurovision Song Contest. Clearly, the queer characters presented to young people are the Trojan Horses of social degeneration. Having shielded Turkey from this disgrace for the past 10-12 years, we can see that we made the right decision," the Turkish president said.

This year, for the first time, the Eurovision winner is a non-binary person. Nemo does not identify as either male or female and prefers the address "they".

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