American Turning Point Imminent

[Deesse23]

Religion and politics are inseparable.

Religion tells people how to behave, in detail, having a major impact on society, economy and culture. As long as you have religions with institutions and ranks, the higher ranks want to control the narrative. This does not happen in a vacuum, it happens, out there in the houses, on the streets, markets and town halls.
Politics is the power struggle related to economy, culture and the shape of society as well. Religious and political leaders will always collide in their interests and in struggle for control, sooner or later.

The only times (in Europe) you didnt have major struggles between religion and politics is when one of both was weak enough to put up a serious fight. Before Canossa, and after the papal state turned inwards after failing to take actual control over Italy and assorted regions.

Even in Ancient Egypt, where the Pharaoh was a living god, for the entobing of whom monumental efforts were made without a blink, even the Pharaohs regularly were subject to the will and influence of the priests.

Religion without hierarchy, a "private" belief having no impact or interaction with the world outside the self and thus without struggle with other entities...thats a wet dream ..or lets better say delusion.

[The Grand Nudger]

Not -everything- is a religion, not even everything we casually refer to as religious is truly so, though some things we often overlook as religious are deeply so. You’ve got superstitions, you s got private beliefs, you’ve got a mountain of ideas about how things are…but not necessarily how they should be. None of this is religion.

To properly clear the bar you’re looking for ideas about the sacred and the profane, about tge shape and contents of a good life and character, which…along with reinforcing observances, holidays, and rituals, draw a community into a moral whole. Think Christmas…sure…but also the Fourth of July.

In the west, for much of the last century, that’s civic nationalism. Now, politically active Christian’s in the west believe that it is because we’ve abandoned Christianity that we are no longer unified….but it’s actually because they’ve abandoned civic nationalism for ethnic nationalism, and pretty overtly so…as Christianity now fails to unite them with other Christian’s who remain united with their fellow civic nationalists.

- and before anyone goes ape shit over nationalism and secular civil religions….I’m not saying it’s The Right Way for us to be, merely relating the history and demographics of western cultural decline of late. When you hear them babble on about how the us sucks and everyone’s laughing at us and the American dream is a joke….rightly or wrongly in-fact….this is what they’re expressing, and simply misattributing to a lapsed belief in super fairies. To them, god is what made us great in an active capacity, rather than the strength and value of our shared institutions.