Omnism

[Faith No More]

Omnism is a belief that all religions hold truth to them. Universalism is the idea that religious doctrines are meant to include everyone, not just a chosen few.

Yes but the distinction between the two concepts is negligible, a tenet of universalism, like omnism, is that there is a core belief in one common truth, take Hindu universalism for example, it denotes the ideology that all religions are true. Why have two terms/labels for religious concepts that actually have the same meaning?

I don't know, I guess it's because holding Universalism true can mean a belief in Omnism, but a belief in Omnism does not mean a belief in Universalism? People like to split hairs when labeling their religious beliefs.

[reverendjeremiah]

I will stick with Absurdism. Your intent blinds you when you compare other religions in such fashion. You see what you want and ignore the rest.

In reality there is no inherent meaning in the universe in relation to the individual, so all such claims are nothing more than personal opinion. If it floats your boat, then rock it out with your cock out... but dont think that I will consider "omnism" as anything more than an opinion intended to destract the individual from the cold hard truth that life is absurd.

[Pel]

I believe that the truth in the bible is for instance that God is Love. In the quran it says in one place to patiently perseviere and forgive. But were it talks about hell its a pure lie. God is infinetly good. He loves everyone and everything the same as mach as he loves him self. Budhism gives you good moral precepts but it denies the creator. They would have you think that you can become omniscient. I only would like for all of you to be good and happy. Remember no book can tell me about God. I look into my heart. Ultimately its personal choice wether you want to be with God in the end. But t here's no fire and brimstone. Use your conciense to distinguish and you should see what you can see from the truth. Same thing that led you to atheism can lead you to the truth about the creator. I don't believe that belief in him/her is a prerequisite for to be with him/her. You just need to remain good. If not then you end up with the creative fellow brings. Thanks

[5thHorseman]

Pel, why love, how can you be sure 'god' doesnt hate everyone, or just be indifferent about our existence, and what makes you so sure about this?


Also

'Same thing that led you to atheism can lead you to the truth about the creator.'



...... Come on, your just guessing.

[Pel]

I believe that God is infinite. Now acording to my logic an infinite being would be pure good wich is why there is suffering. It's all about solidarity with those that become creative. Maybe we were created "heaven" and we were asked if we would like to go with your creative family members(on earth) and we accepted fully knowing that we can also end up creative. True unconditional Love. Look into your heart/ conciense. Again this is what I believe the truth is.
Thanks

[Welsh cake]

I believe that the truth in the bible is for instance that God is Love.
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Remember no book can tell me about God.

But were it talks about hell its a pure lie.
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Ultimately its personal choice wether you want to be with God in the end. But t here's no fire and brimstone.

I'm having a hard time following what you're saying... either you accept the Bible is true and authoritative or you do not, hell cannot both exist and not exist regardless of which version you accept, be it the classic underworld deception, or darkness, devoid of your god concept. It would help immensely if you didn't contradict yourself repeatedly. Take a brief moment to proof-read what you've typed before submitting it.

Budhism gives you good moral precepts but it denies the creator.

A Buddhist can reject what he/she thinks is nonsense but they cannot deny what they think is not real. The goal of Buddhism is to achieve "Nirvana" a state where a one is free of greed, hatred, and delusion. If you actually touched upon Buddhist cosmology they do accept higher beings on higher levels of reality. They reject any notion of a creator god or single supreme being because questions on the origin of the world that is endlessly reincarnating itself are meaningless, a delusion, and therefore, a hindrance to the attainment of nirvana.

I look into my heart.

My heart pumps blood. Yours does something more?

Same thing that led you to atheism can lead you to the truth about the creator.

No. An atheist may take it upon him or herself to try to find out whether any god claim is confirmable and stands up to scrutiny or not, but atheism is simply a lack of belief, it makes no claims about reality, i.e. a creator creating it via magic.

I believe that God is infinite. Now acording to my logic an infinite being would be pure good wich is why there is suffering.

Your logic is notably flawed. An omnibenevolent all-powerful creator cannot be compatible with a world full of misery and pain, a reality where death is inevitable, no matter how much you try to justify it, there's an obvious contradiction between creator (god) and creation (universe).

It's all about solidarity with those that become creative. Maybe we were created "heaven" and we were asked if we would like to go with your creative family members(on earth) and we accepted fully knowing that we can also end up creative.

Maybe we're all a dream of the Invisible Pink Unicorn? Maybe we're a brain in a vat? Maybe we are demonstrably real and wasting our one and only life pondering away evidence-free "what if" scenarios that get us nowhere?

True unconditional Love.

Love is an emotion, not a force, it is conditional. If your god concept's love as you claim has no limits or boundaries, it would be impossible to reject him, yet you accept it is still possible to thwart him and 'leave his presence', that's not unconditional.

[Pel]

No cake I don't believe in the bible. I don't believe in hell. I do believe in after life. I have my theories about it but no there's no hell. God would never do that to anyone. He would also not force good onto you but be will lead you and he has done that from the begining by creating you with conciense. I apologise if I didn't explain my self well. With the bible or the quran, etc I believe that if you cut out certain statements that they are true. Like love your enemies. It's good thing to qdo if you want to remain good. But I believe that God will love you wether you do or don't love them and that God would not comand you. Let me ask you something. Can you give a statement that contains both lies and truth?

Thanks

[reverendjeremiah]

No cake I don't believe in the bible. I don't believe in hell. I do believe in after life. I have my theories about it but no there's no hell. God would never do that to anyone. He would also not force good onto you but be will lead you and he has done that from the begining by creating you with conciense. I apologise if I didn't explain my self well. With the bible or the quran, etc I believe that if you cut out certain statements that they are true. Like love your enemies. It's good thing to qdo if you want to remain good. But I believe that God will love you wether you do or don't love them and that God would not comand you. Let me ask you something. Can you give a statement that contains both lies and truth?

Thanks

Then you are a "deist"

[Pel]

Yes Reverendjeremiah, you are right. That would be the closest label. An intuitive deist actually. Ofcourse I use reason to see how the things work. But there is only so much we can know especially in this world.
Thanks

[Zen Badger]

Is it anything like Omnomnomism?

Just wondering.