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Am I really an atheist?
July 5, 2011 at 8:05 pm
I've put about 5 minutes of thought into this. I'm not sure.
I do not believe in supernatural beings that create, listen to us, take interest in what we or anything else does, has no "divine plan" for anyone or anything, will punish or reward in any afterlife, or on and on. Generally, my beliefs are best described as "non-belief", just as my "non-hobby" of not collecting stamps.
But, with Anymouse posting things about _The Principia Discordia_ I cannot say for sure. I DO believe in chaos! I spent years in my career in software quality assurance devising tests using mathematical chaos theory. I've written papers about software quality assurance with a good deal of referencing chaos theory. I am 100% sure that chaos exists! Therefore, I'm 100% that Discordia exists!
Pass the pumpernickel hot dog buns!
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RE: Am I really an atheist?
July 5, 2011 at 8:58 pm
(This post was last modified: July 5, 2011 at 11:46 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
All things happen in fives, or are divisible by or are multiples of five, or are somehow directly or indirectly appropriate to 5
The Law of Fives is never wrong.
Hail Eris!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Am I really an atheist?
July 6, 2011 at 7:10 am
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2011 at 7:11 am by Welsh cake.)
Do you believe in god or gods? If you believe Eris, the goddess of Chaos, exists you are a theist, if not, you are an atheist.
If you cannot answer the question and remain indeterminate you'd then fall into the "grey-area" categories like Apatheism and Ignosticism and so on.
EDIT: oh fuck I've posted something in the Humour board by mistake!
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RE: Am I really an atheist?
July 6, 2011 at 10:58 am
I'm an agent of chaos. That said: I'm also an atheist.
Don't have to believe in any sort of metaphysical nonsense to know where you stand 
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: Am I really an atheist?
July 6, 2011 at 12:00 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2011 at 12:01 pm by Cinjin.)
Is it really necessary that everyone have the perfect label slapped on them??
"I'm a neo-existential ... blah blah blah ... pragma... blah blah blah ... agnostic ... blah blah blah ... prima ... blah blah blah ... socialist with a twist of cinnamon."
It gets fucking ridiculous. Be who you are, believe what you will, and the label be damned!
I swear - I think labels are just some dead guy's way of saying, "Hey, I thought of that first!"
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RE: Am I really an atheist?
July 6, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Agreed. It is more important that your beliefs are true to who you are than slapping a nice and neat label on them to categorize yourself in relation to others.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Am I really an atheist?
July 6, 2011 at 2:37 pm
@ Cinjin
That's right Member of the Lost!
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RE: Am I really an atheist?
July 6, 2011 at 3:10 pm
easy way to find out. shave your hair off and if there is a 666 on your bald noggin you are an atheist.
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RE: Am I really an atheist?
July 6, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Quote:.. socialist with a twist of cinnamon.
Loving that little gem 
How about a christian on the rocks? Or a communist shaken not stirred?
"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."
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RE: Am I really an atheist?
July 6, 2011 at 5:49 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2011 at 6:16 pm by Anymouse.)
(July 5, 2011 at 8:05 pm)BethK Wrote: I've put about 5 minutes of thought into this. I'm not sure.
There's the problem. You put five minutes of thought into this, when you should have put twenty-three. Or maybe twenty-three plus five. Or maybe five minus twenty-three. (The answer should have arisen in your mind eighteen minutes before the question.) Fnord. I suggest you read the Principia Discordia again. An atheist should be fully familiar with all holy texts, as they never know which one they might have to refute next. 
Of course one can believe the reality of chaos without believing in Eris. Even a Discordian would agree with that. (But a Discordian doesn't really care about things such as belief, (: all things are true, even false things.) Chaos is readily apparent.
"Be ye not lost amongst Precept of Order." - Book of Uterus, 1:5, "Principia Discordia, or How I Found Goddess and What I Did to Her When I Found Her."
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