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RE: Christians are morally compromised
September 26, 2011 at 11:20 am
(This post was last modified: September 26, 2011 at 11:21 am by Stucky.)
The problems of Christianity are caused by men not by their God. Just because someone says he is a Christian doesn't mean he really is. Christianity is not a club where you can become a member whether you believe in the principles of the club or not.
A true Christian upholds the principles of Jesus Christ, not of men.
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RE: Christians are morally compromised
September 26, 2011 at 11:22 am
(September 26, 2011 at 11:19 am)frankiej Wrote: I post a lot of videos on facebook like this... I really don't care what my "friends" think of it.
If they are prepared to argue with me, then they better do it well, or I won't hold back. I jump at every chance I can get to have a go at them for their silly/fucking retarded views.
You are brave! I'm a chicken.... I feel safe here to debate religion but not in the real world as I'm all alone!!! 
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RE: Christians are morally compromised
September 26, 2011 at 11:22 am
Agreed, the problems with christianity are caused by men. Of course, I believe this to be the case because christianity is, unless you have evidence, a product solely of our own imaginative minds.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Christians are morally compromised
September 26, 2011 at 11:23 am
(This post was last modified: September 26, 2011 at 11:24 am by ElDinero.)
1. Not everything JC is reported to have said was good.
2. There are people who claim to be Christian and would assert that YOU are not a true Christian. How is it to be decided who's right (if anyone)?
You're walking dangerously close to a No True Scotsman, here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
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RE: Christians are morally compromised
September 26, 2011 at 11:24 am
(This post was last modified: September 26, 2011 at 11:25 am by Heather.)
LOL nm.... i'm slow!
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RE: Christians are morally compromised
September 26, 2011 at 11:25 am
The acts that men claimed god performed. Again, just projections of our own imaginative minds.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Christians are morally compromised
September 26, 2011 at 1:44 pm
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Christians are morally compromised, or confounded rather, in the sense that they believe "God is good", even when he's being evil.
Its the same as the equally fundamentally-flawed statement "The customer is always right." when we know all too well from past relationships the customer can sometimes be right, can sometimes be wrong, and other times just plain crazy. It was a business model/philosophy that was doomed to failure before it started, ignoring that some people's irrationality, selfishness and irresponsibleness makes them wholly unprofitable.
Its no different with the Christian God. Just because he is God doesn't always make him morally right. Might never makes right. An infinitely benign all-powerful deity should never put his own interests first. Yet God freely confesses he only works toward his own selfish schemes of 'glorification', sparing a 'transgressive mankind' merely for his 'namesake' only rather than showing genuine empathy or compassion to the pitiable finite race. Indeed instead of a loving deity in the Bible the far opposite is true as he murders as he pleases, striking down anyone who stands against his purpose. He has demonstrated to be totally unworthy of reverence or adoration and yet bizarrely Christians still manage to love this 'inhuman creature' anyway.
How many theists in that audience would you say had nothing but hatred and contempt for Dan Barker for exposing this all-too-apparent 'monster god', rather than leaving feeling deep shame and embarrassment for ever holding this deplorably wicked concept in such high regard? Sadly, I would hazard a guess there was at least more than one.
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RE: Christians are morally compromised
September 28, 2011 at 7:59 am
Remember that the Christian 'God' is not Brahman, Allah or Ik Onkar.
Many of God's actions in the old testament were questionable, however Jesus nullified the old testament - Christians are not Jews.
Must God(s) be omnibenevolent? What if they are indifferent to human suffering, or malicious? They are still God(s).
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RE: Christians are morally compromised
September 28, 2011 at 8:01 am
(September 28, 2011 at 7:59 am)Jesuslovesyou Wrote: Remember that the Christian 'God' is not Brahman, Allah or Ik Onkar.
Many of God's actions in the old testament were questionable, however Jesus nullified the old testament - Christians are not Jews.
Must God(s) be omnibenevolent? What if they are indifferent to human suffering, or malicious? They are still God(s).
Why would you worship a god indifferent to humans? Because they are powerful? That's a reason for fear, not for worship.
If I die and god is real, im so screwed.
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RE: Christians are morally compromised
September 28, 2011 at 9:01 am
(September 28, 2011 at 7:59 am)Jesuslovesyou Wrote: Remember that the Christian 'God' is not Brahman, Allah or Ik Onkar.
Many of God's actions in the old testament were questionable, however Jesus nullified the old testament - Christians are not Jews.
Must God(s) be omnibenevolent? What if they are indifferent to human suffering, or malicious? They are still God(s).
They are nothing more than what mankind gives to them...
Please fuck off 
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