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RE: Science will surely destroy the planet
October 30, 2011 at 3:58 pm
(October 30, 2011 at 1:28 am)Minimalist Wrote: Mexican farm workers cross our border at will....and we are looking for them.
I was of the opinion that was typically carried out on foot. I could be wrong, though.
At any rate, the chances of any South American country going to war with us are slim. The better bet would be to get it overseas, which would require a delivery system. Also, a homemade nuke in the back of a truck is not likely to make it anywhere, in my opinion. Chances are, the thing will become unstable and blow early or never blow at all.
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RE: Science will surely destroy the planet
October 30, 2011 at 3:58 pm
What's the distinction between micro and macro evolution Lucent? Check your source before you respond off the cuff.
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RE: Science will surely destroy the planet
October 30, 2011 at 4:00 pm
(October 30, 2011 at 3:58 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What's the distinction between micro and macro evolution Lucent?
Oh, no. This is going to be silly.
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RE: Science will surely destroy the planet
October 30, 2011 at 4:08 pm
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It always is. Perhaps it deserves it's own thread Lucent. Awe us by elaborating on one of the many pearls you've decided to drop.
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RE: Science will surely destroy the planet
October 30, 2011 at 4:08 pm
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2011 at 4:15 pm by 5thHorseman.)
'The opinion of atheist physicists is not science.'
They are atheist because of what they learn. It's no shock that more higher educated people are atheists.
'Everyone has a God given conscience which tells them right from wrong. Every society has demonstrated an innate knowledge of morality for this reason.'
That is not the reason. That too is a terrible cop out. 1) you can't prove god. 2) people learn from reflection and experience.
'"We're working on it" is not an answer. '
True, but God is not an answer either as you too have no proof, the difference is scientists look for proof, your content that you way, the bible way is correct, despite the obvious flaws and LIES.
Fact of the matter is science looks outward to find things. You fundies look with a blindfold on, you hold us back as a species just because of your beliefs that have NO substance. Your great country is falling behind in science because of this.
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RE: Science will surely destroy the planet
October 30, 2011 at 5:15 pm
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(October 30, 2011 at 2:59 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Furthermore, you've yet to explain how your original premise is valid. But I'm not holding my breath, you see, because...
This is obviously something you have never seriously investigated. It's plainly obvious technology has been undergoing exponential growth but perhaps you have to be over 17 years of age to have noticed it. There are many different laws which show and apply to exponential change, such as moores law, kryders law, amdahls law etc.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...ryders-law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law
There is no proven hard limit to any of these laws, and with advances in technology, we can expect even further acceleration. The applications are endless, and also, well documented:
Assessing the Impact of Exponential Growth Laws on Future Combat Aircraft Design
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2010-04.h...ocId294037
There is also an awareness of the problem I have outlined. Here is some data on extinction scenerios:
GLOBAL CATASTROPHIC RISKS SURVEY
http://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/__data/assets/pd...report.pdf
Analyzing Human Extinction Scenarios and Related Hazards
http://www.nickbostrom.com/existential/risks.html
(October 30, 2011 at 2:59 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: It does stand to reason that you are a Kurzweil looney, considering that your similar use of 'exponential' and lazily defined terms makes it difficult to zero in on what you're saying (if you're saying anything... that is).
I'm not a follower of anyone except the Lord Jesus Christ. My scenario for this planet is a 7 year tribulation ending in armeggedon. I have nothing invested in kurzweil, or this scenario, although I find it interesting that you try to assassinate his character rather than his argument. Although he hasn't gotten everything right, he has gotten a lot right, and his theories bear looking at. Since you're so knowledgeable, how about a refutation of this data?
An overview of models of technological singularity
http://agi-conf.org/2010/wp-content/uplo...odels2.pdf
The singularity: A philosophical analysis
http://consc.net/papers/singularity.pdf
(October 30, 2011 at 2:59 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: You started this thread with 'Science doomsday scenario', you lying little shit. It is named "Science will surely destroy the planet". That is not 'the march of technology'.
The march of technology is equatable to the exponential growth I mentioned.
(October 30, 2011 at 2:59 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: That's rich coming from the same guy who's posting videos and fallacies on "Things science cannot explain".
You are contemptible.
Your religious faith in science is blind. There are more than a few things science can't prove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkBD20edOco
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RE: Science will surely destroy the planet
October 30, 2011 at 5:25 pm
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Well, if william lane craig said it I guess we'll just have to sound the retreat. 
Those who respect the opinions and ramblings of a smiling con man baffle the shit out of me.
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RE: Science will surely destroy the planet
October 30, 2011 at 5:26 pm
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(October 30, 2011 at 3:58 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What's the distinction between micro and macro evolution Lucent? Check your source before you respond off the cuff.
microevolution is adaptation within a species, which has clearly been observed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microevolution
macroevolution is changes above the species level, ie, transitioning from one species to another
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroevolution
The former is clearly fact, the latter has never been observed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHyTvH0_I...re=related
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RE: Science will surely destroy the planet
October 30, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Erm - excuse me, I don't wish to offend anyone or cause any sort of trouble, but there is a question I think is pertinent to this point in the discussion. It's a little something that I have a real problem trying to understand when topics of this nature are debated and I would really appreciate an answer if anybody can supply one. Just a silly little thing, really:
Thank you.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Science will surely destroy the planet
October 30, 2011 at 5:43 pm
It's someone who looks most like Darwin.
'he looks the most darwinist'
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