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The God gene
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The God gene
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_gene

Does anyone know anything about the "god gene". I'm having a frustrating time researching it's validity. From what I've seen so far the study on the god gene was not published in a peer reviewed journal and the methods used in the studies were questionable. Everything I've read about it is over 5 years old. Does anyone have any up to date relevant information regarding this? Alternate theories are always welcome as well of course. I'm just curious.
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise

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#2
RE: The God gene
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMAT2

Specifically;

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...9393805397

I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The God gene
(November 25, 2011 at 3:24 pm)Rhythm Wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMAT2

Specifically;

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...9393805397

I followed the first link when I read the wiki on the gene and the other link You posted was originally posted in 1993. I was hoping for more up to date information.
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise

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#4
RE: The God gene
Gotta check behind the curtains sometimes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2262126/
(in the discussion section behind the wiki)

Little more up to date. What exactly are you looking for? Whether or not it's solid science? Depends on the claim, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#5
RE: The God gene
(November 25, 2011 at 8:01 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Gotta check behind the curtains sometimes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2262126/
(in the discussion section behind the wiki)

Little more up to date. What exactly are you looking for? Whether or not it's solid science? Depends on the claim, lol.

This is not a scientific study. It's more of a class project. Perhaps the God gene thing is bullshit. It looks like they are speculating way too much.
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise

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#6
RE: The God gene
With regards to the claims of spirituality (that the god concept literally comes from this gene), yeah, over-reaching. That there is correlation (some imply causation, and that's the over-reaching bit) in some studies between those who self identify as spiritual or religious and the expression of this gene is another matter. What can be said with certainty is that this gene has something to do with doling out the feel goods, the prevalence of which in those who claim to be experiencing the "spiritual" being well understood and documented. Dopamine ftw! Speculating way too much is an understatement. His study is "statistically insignificant". The hypothesis is plausible, we do know that this gene has a part to play in producing chemicals which our brains are "addicted" to. Since we know that those warm fuzzy feelings experienced and described are part of the effect of dopamine (among other things) then it could easily be said that for the subset of people who react to religion or spirituality by producing dopamine this gene is a contributing factor to their level of "religiosity" or spirituality. Calling it a cause ignores a great body of knowledge on the subject in favor of a laser like focus on the proponents own field (surprise surprise). On the other hand, theres the troubling bit about religion and spirituality not giving me (and many others) the fuzzies, just as one small example. Does that mean that my gene is malfunctioning? lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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