Zimmerman verdict: Not Guilty.

[smax]

Actually later in the post I do specifically mentioning that I could have called the cops because he threatened me.

But let me clue you in here. This happened around 1991. A) I would have had to leave the neighborhood anyway to go find a payphone (no cell phones) and B) "Terrorist" threat terminology didn't come into our legal banter until around the 911 attacks about a decade later.

It didn't matter that much to me. I really didn't give a fuck.

The man was still guilty of threatening you, and you should have gave a fuck. You had a civic duty to report this obviously dangerous person to the authorities in an attempt to help make society a more peaceful and civilized place.

If I'm feeling like an asshole I can walk up to anyone in America, including you, and say whatever the fuck I want to you. And you can do the same to me.

But you don't, and why? Because society views this type of behaviour as both morally and socially wrong.

That's why we should all be openly appalled by what George Zimmerman did.

That is our society. It's the way our society has always been. You've never noticed this? Where the fuck do you live?

I never have anyone question me about my motives when I'm out in public, and I wouldn't want to live in a society where I had to tolerate such questioning.

No they can't. Well, they can but later when the police get involved they're going to have problems. If they physically assault me they are breaking the law.

Not if they are the only party left to tell the story.

I've had security guards ask me questions before. What's the huge difference between a security quard and a neighborhood watch?

Security guards are trained and paid to provide security, and are typically uniformed individuals. For that reason, it's easier to accept and understand their inquiries.

Not saying that they have police level authority, but if an altercation develops as a result of them doing their job, it's reasonable understandable.

They didn't punish Zimmerman because he DIDN'T BREAK THE LAW.

That's what I said: Florida Law is a joke.

Trayvon broke the fuck out of the law.

According to the man who harrassed and then killed him.

What YOU are proposing is that if anyone walks up to me and asks me any questions I can attack you and YOU get in trouble with the law for talking to me.

Nope. What I'm proposing is that people without authority act accordingly. You have a civic duty to report suspicious or criminal activity.

Any action beyond that should be viewed as provoking.

Let me tell you another little story about back home when I was growing up.

I was one time at this keg party. At this house where a guy named Chris lived. They had a craps table out and were playing dice for money. I'm chilling with a cup of beer and casually say "Hey, what's up?" to this one guy I'm standing next to. He turns to me and I notice that he's pretty well drunk. And by the expression on his face he didn't look like a happy drunk. He looked pissed off.

He asks me, "Do you have any money?" I raise my eyebrows and reply, "Uhm... no."

So he says to me, "You better get the fuck out of here right now."

So I go, "Alrighty, then." and then walk through the crowd to the other side of the table. Now so far he hasn't broken any laws even though the level of implied threat by the way he's talking to me is pretty high.

So he's still standing there looking pissed and drunk and he's glaring at me from across the way. I'm thinking, "Well this could turn really ugly really fast."

But then as luck would have it Chris walks up, grabs the guy around the neck, and asks him, "Hey (whatever his name was), you're not trying to start shit at my party are you?" The guy immediately looked like a whimpering puppy.

You know why? Because Chris was one of the craziest mother fuckers in the tri-county area. Chris and a friend of his once crashed a party where they didn't know anyone. Completely surrounded by strangers. One of the locals walked up to Chris and told him to leave. Chris attacked him and ended up biting one of his ears completely off and then spit it on him.

The guy's friends take him and his ear to the hospital. Chris stayed and partied.

That's the kind of world I grew up in.

Great story! Great friends! Great attitude!

May the strong survive, brother!

[Red Celt]

3. A witness saw Martin on top of Zimmerman and Zimmerman was yelling for help. The attack is evidential in Zimmerman having sustained several injuries to the face. On a side note, I have personally taken a look at the photo of Trayvon dead in the grass and there are no injuries to his face at all which in my opinion support Zimmerman's account of Martin being the initial aggressor.

Take us through the steps in logic which allows you to conclude that the dominant person in an act of aggression is the one that has to have started it. The person who starts a fight always wins it? I mean... just... really? The weaker party is never over-confident? Like... ever?

Once you've failed to do that (because you will) you can then tell us that you reached a stupid conclusion, and you'll do your best not to do that again.

This entire thing has been blown to ridiculous levels.

Yeah. Dead person, huh? I mean, why should anyone care about that?

Try doing a little role-play to see if you can expand whatever levels of empathy that you possess. Imagine that you were Trayvon and how you might have felt in that same situation. Or, if you prefer, put yourself in George's shoes.

I mean... I've done that. As Trayvon walked past my truck, I'd have rolled down my window and said "Hi. How are you doing? I'm with the Neighbourhood Watch. Could I ask if you live in the area, or are you lost and need some directions?" with a smiley face.

Y'see... what happens then, is, Trayvon Martin realises that you're not some kind of psycho nutter who's decided to take an unhealthy interest in his route home from the store.

Nobody dies.

Fucking imagine that, you Zimmerman fan boys.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Yeah. Dead person, huh? I mean, why should anyone care about that?

Try doing a little role-play to see if you can expand whatever levels of empathy that you possess. Imagine that you were Trayvon and how you might have felt in that same situation. Or, if you prefer, put yourself in George's shoes.

I mean... I've done that. As Trayvon walked past my truck, I'd have rolled down my window and said "Hi. How are you doing? I'm with the Neighbourhood Watch. Could I ask if you live in the area, or are you lost and need some directions?" with a smiley face.

Y'see... what happens then, is, Trayvon Martin realises that you're not some kind of psycho nutter who's decided to take an unhealthy interest in his route home from the store.

Nobody dies.

Fucking imagine that, you Zimmerman fan boys.

Dude, they got into a fight, and one got shot. Happens all the time here.
What really is your problem?

[Red Celt]

Dude, they got into a fight, and one got shot. Happens all the time here.
What really is your problem?

Mostly, I expect First World countries to have better social conditions than the shit-hole place you live in? I dunno. Call me crazy.

[wwjs]

[wolf39us]

Not the innocent little boy with skittles walking home to watch My Little Pony! NO!!!!

[Red Celt]

With regards to your religious views... you're failing.

And, really, it's good that Zimmerman had access to that jpg on the night of the murder. No. Wait...

[wwjs]

He didn't, but it shows that travon wasn't a fucking saint "child".

[popeyespappy]

He didn't need access to the jpg to be justifiably suspicious of Trayvon's behavior if he saw him going from house to house peering into people's windows from their side yards.

[CleanShavenJesus]

3. A witness saw Martin on top of Zimmerman and Zimmerman was yelling for help. The attack is evidential in Zimmerman having sustained several injuries to the face. On a side note, I have personally taken a look at the photo of Trayvon dead in the grass and there are no injuries to his face at all which in my opinion support Zimmerman's account of Martin being the initial aggressor.

Take us through the steps in logic which allows you to conclude that the dominant person in an act of aggression is the one that has to have started it. The person who starts a fight always wins it? I mean... just... really? The weaker party is never over-confident? Like... ever?

When the hell did he say that?