Apologetics open challenge

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OK cheers Yeah I was firing out my arse. Should have just done some research.

Mystic: you're welcome!

I still can't understand what time "coming into being" means. Can anyone help me out?

We reach each point in time, and that's when that point of time is "introduced" I suppose. But again this is all abstract, it's our way of observing what is already happening and trying to make sense of it. That doesn't make time an actual thing that exists. So in our brains, we are aware of the "passage of time" and each new moment bringing new sensations.

But my point is, we're creating "time" ourself. So if you want a creator for it, it's us. It's just a label to help us try and understand.

Maybe there is some being somewhere behind all this. I have no clue. But I see no reason to think that there has to be, nor any possible way we can learn anything about them with any confidence.

"Coming into being" is itself a temporal phrase, so that either implies a second timeline in which this "our time" is not present and then is; or else it's just a tautology using time to measure itself...

I'd say the state of the universe at any point in time is heavily dependent on the previous point, and modified by various forces. I don't know what more we can say. The theory of realivity seems to talk about time as being an actual fourth dimension and not simply a parameter, when things are viewed in certain ways. This is not something I've got my head around yet, but it highlights the problem with assuming whatever is actually happening is as simple as our attempts to model it.