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Apologetics open challenge
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RE: Apologetics open challenge
July 23, 2015 at 7:36 am (This post was last modified: July 23, 2015 at 7:38 am by robvalue.)
That is called special pleading. "Just always there" isn't a valid explanation. I can say the universe was "just always there". You haven't got any information at all about whatever creator this is, so to talk about the infinite nature of his past is rather presumptuous. You are simply assuming there must be something behind it all, and defining it in any way you like to try and make it fit. It doesn't mean it's even possible such a thing exists.

I think I'll bring this to a close as we don't seem to be able to reach any agreement here. If you have anything new MK then feel free to bring it along. Or if anyone wants to chime on whether or not this is special pleading, feel free. Otherwise I'll leave it for the readers to decide.

Anyone else want to have a try? Don't be shy. Stroll right up and test your logic.
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Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 20, 2015 at 3:26 am
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by Pizza - July 20, 2015 at 4:06 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 20, 2015 at 4:17 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by Minimalist - July 20, 2015 at 2:19 pm
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2015 at 9:08 am
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by Pizza - July 20, 2015 at 3:22 pm
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 20, 2015 at 2:40 pm
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 20, 2015 at 2:52 pm
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 20, 2015 at 2:59 pm
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 21, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by Longhorn - July 21, 2015 at 10:45 am
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 21, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 22, 2015 at 12:30 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 22, 2015 at 6:58 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 22, 2015 at 7:08 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 22, 2015 at 7:16 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by MysticKnight - July 22, 2015 at 5:47 pm
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 23, 2015 at 3:40 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 23, 2015 at 7:36 am
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by MysticKnight - July 23, 2015 at 9:54 am
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - July 23, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - August 10, 2015 at 4:12 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - August 10, 2015 at 9:12 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - September 21, 2015 at 3:19 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - September 30, 2015 at 4:21 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - September 28, 2015 at 11:18 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by Angrboda - October 2, 2015 at 5:14 pm
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by Neo-Scholastic - October 2, 2015 at 9:31 pm
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by Crossless1 - October 2, 2015 at 9:48 pm
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by Angrboda - October 3, 2015 at 11:11 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - October 2, 2015 at 3:44 am
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RE: Apologetics open challenge - by marianomanto - October 2, 2015 at 6:33 am
RE: Apologetics open challenge - by robvalue - October 2, 2015 at 6:36 am

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