(August 18, 2015 at 10:23 am)msid Wrote:
i believe that God always answers prayer. but the answer isnt always yes. and i know you believe that its all just chance if my prayer is awnsered but its happened so many times that it cant be a coincidence.
also i dont believe in the big bang because of how far fetched it is. its an idea made up by people looking for any other explanation other than God.
it takes WAY more faith not to believe that there was a creator of the universe. if one single mistake had been made in the big bang the whole world could just collapse. the idea that there was just a bang one time millions of years ago that created this perfect earth just takes a lot of faith in nothing to believe
If the outcome is always interpreted as an answer to prayer, then even coincidences will be interpreted that way. You're not seeing the coincidences because you're reading something into them that makes them seem like more than coincidence.
Here's a good illustration of what I'm talking about:
As for the Big Bang, no, it doesn't really take that much faith to believe that the Universe in its current state originated with a rapid outward expansion of matter and energy. Furthermore, regardless of how much faith it takes, that's what the evidence says.
Your assertion might hold a little weight if particles were just randomly whizzing around the Universe waiting to slam into each other, but that's not the case. Particles and bodies of matter have a tendency to clump together and form semi-orderly systems because of consistent universal forces like gravity, electromagnetism, and the strong and weak nuclear forces.
Besides, Earth only showed up after billions of years of energy and matter cooling, changing, and hurtling through space. The "Ferrari Analogy" with a tornado or explosion isn't exactly accurate. The Earth isn't the result of a single chaotic event so much as it is the result of slow change over massive periods of time.
One thing you're right about, though: if even one particle had been in a different place at the moment of the Bang, Earth probably wouldn't be here with us on it. If a different sperm had met a different egg, you and I wouldn't be the ones sitting at these computers having this discussion. What this means is that we're extraordinarily lucky to be here. Nothing more, nothing less. Life is precious specifically because it is finite and is the result of monumental odds. Rare doesn't mean impossible, and if it isn't impossible it doesn't require a miracle. All it takes is time, and the Universe has been around for a LOOONG time.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com