(August 18, 2015 at 12:24 pm)msid Wrote:(August 18, 2015 at 12:21 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: There is pretty good evidence that our "choices" are actually an illusion. Your brain, on the quantum level, is a machine which operates by certain parameters. There is evidence that everything you do is inevitable.
then this whole conversation is just being typed out by some other force that is controlling our lives so if that is true then there is really nothing we can do about that and our lives would have no meaning
Not another force. You. Whatever 'you' is. We still aren't sure. But don't arbitrarily attribute agency to this. However, the things we are sure of tell us that what is likely true is that free will is not a real thing.
Also, take care to not appeal to emotion. Just because something would be nice, there is no reason based on that alone to consider that thing true.
Meaning, even if an illusion, is still important for us. Even if we only think we have free will, and we only think we have meaning, that doesn't mean that the consequences of thinking this way aren't as important to us.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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