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christian looking to understand athiests
RE: christian looking to understand athiests
(August 19, 2015 at 12:56 pm)loganonekenobi Wrote:
(August 18, 2015 at 9:51 am)msid Wrote: i see that most of you believe what you do because of lack of evidence that there is a God.  Personally i am a christian because of all the evidence ive seen and the ways ive seen him answer prayers.  ive had people come up to me and pray for problems that i was having that i hadnt told anyone.  ive had many prayers awnsered in ways that could only be explained by God.  I also completely understand everyone heres point of view

I see no difference in prayer and rituals to shiva or cuthulu.  If you believe strongly enough then it may be possible to change reality with will alone.
Of course you cant put this in a lab so i would never say "look its real" in the same way that christians do.
However i too have seen rituals done and prayers answered.  May be its a power that humans have had all along.
The problem arises when the human does not have the confidence in him/her self to affect reality.  This I feel is due to religion saying "you are nothing with out our god".
My point is that it may have worked for you because you truly believe but it would be the same for a devoute  hindu or muslem or wiccan.

Wow.  If you can change reality through will alone, I'd sure like to see some evidence of it.  Ought to be easily testable if it's true.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 2:25 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Lucanus - August 18, 2015 at 2:40 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 18, 2015 at 2:59 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Javaman - August 18, 2015 at 3:05 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Aoi Magi - August 18, 2015 at 3:37 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by abaris - August 18, 2015 at 3:46 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 18, 2015 at 4:02 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 18, 2015 at 5:44 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 18, 2015 at 6:19 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Ayen - August 18, 2015 at 6:37 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 18, 2015 at 6:42 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Chad32 - August 18, 2015 at 7:22 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 18, 2015 at 7:33 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 18, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 18, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 8:42 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 18, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 10:23 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 18, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Minimalist - August 18, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 18, 2015 at 12:16 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Chad32 - August 18, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Crossless1 - August 18, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Crossless1 - August 18, 2015 at 12:07 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Minimalist - August 18, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Jenny A - August 19, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cato - August 19, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Spooky - August 18, 2015 at 10:18 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Spooky - August 18, 2015 at 10:32 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 18, 2015 at 10:23 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 10:28 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 10:43 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 18, 2015 at 10:35 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 10:49 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 11:27 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 12:18 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by tjakey - August 18, 2015 at 10:26 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 10:36 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by tjakey - August 19, 2015 at 9:01 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 10:40 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Minimalist - August 18, 2015 at 10:52 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 10:59 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 11:37 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 12:48 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 18, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Exian - August 18, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 18, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Crossless1 - August 18, 2015 at 11:48 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Javaman - August 18, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Javaman - August 18, 2015 at 3:05 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Crossless1 - August 18, 2015 at 11:41 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Chad32 - August 18, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Crossless1 - August 18, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Chad32 - August 18, 2015 at 1:34 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 18, 2015 at 1:12 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 18, 2015 at 3:01 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 18, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Brian37 - August 18, 2015 at 3:42 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Kingpin - August 18, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 18, 2015 at 5:34 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 18, 2015 at 5:50 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 18, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 18, 2015 at 5:59 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 18, 2015 at 8:12 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 4:27 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Ayen - August 19, 2015 at 7:34 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 19, 2015 at 7:35 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 7:42 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Ayen - August 19, 2015 at 7:50 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 19, 2015 at 10:02 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 19, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 19, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 19, 2015 at 9:33 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 19, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 19, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 19, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 19, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Javaman - August 19, 2015 at 6:52 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 1:32 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Jenny A - August 19, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 19, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by drfuzzy - August 19, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 19, 2015 at 5:56 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 20, 2015 at 12:17 am
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Brian37 - August 20, 2015 at 8:30 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 20, 2015 at 3:12 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 21, 2015 at 2:54 am
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