Even atheists can be deulsional/ OP ED

[Brian37]

The only thing I am conceding here is that the ME still hast to list the mode of death and weapon but it is still a homicide.

Yes, and your "example", for lack of a better word, also shows how simplicity is a sure way to error. It's understanding and analysing what makes people tick, in order to prevent the next generation of Bundys or Gaceys. Simply saying they're the same because, well, they both killed, is simple minded and misleading. Same goes for totalitarian regimes. They're fundamentally different in their inner workings and motivations.

No actually again, it is not right or wrong. The bible is "complicated" too, but it also starts with the naked assertion that a god is real or even required. Start a formula with bad data, it does not matter if parts of that formula appeal to some. 

Saying that a car is a combustion engine is not saying cars cant be complex. Older ones are simple compared to newer ones. What I am talking about is starting from Occam's razor with fixing the car regardless of age or complexity says you go from simple to complex. The mechanic should not take apart the entire car as a default position. They will start by checking the battery cables, battery. We don't view humanity the same way which makes weeding through the complexities almost impossible.

So again, while political views and religious views do get complicated they still stem from our evolutionary pattern seeking. So calling them monsters should be the starting point and that undermines the complexities they hide behind. The complexities ARE important, but not as important as starting with the battery. It does you no good to start in the middle.