How are Dark Mtter and Consciousness different from Spirit?

[The Grand Nudger]

My apologies, I thought I made it obvious.  Soul or spirit -as animating force- does not explain what it purports to describe, and something else, something demonstrable....metabolism, does.  Is there some more complete way that a hypothetical can be discredited?  Not only have the proponents of spirits or souls as such failed to describe how this -would- work to begin with, how spirit would animate, the observation to which it was proposed as a hypothetical has been explained by other, demonstrable, means.  

What demonstrable means.  Now you're just blowing bullshit.

......?  Do you disagree....do you think that our metabolism, and the effect of our metabolism, is not demonstrable?  Is my statement so confusing that you think I must have a custom definition for the word? I doubt it.

If it's direct observation, then pinpoint where in the brain for me this consciousness you're observing is located.

-and if it's not it doesn't matter to my summary, which is why I addressed that -very- concern in the first comments we exchanged.

And you have are empty boasts about observing consciousness in the brain.

It's hardly boastful to claim to have observed a brain in action - and you know I don;t see any difference between that and consciousness-, lol...but this is irrelevant to any conversation I hoped to have.

They may speak to the OP but they don't correspond to the question which prompted the response, the request for an explanation of the claim that spirit was a discredited hypothesis, something you've still yet to establish.  The meaning of spirit under discussion was made plain and all these attempts to draw the subject back to animism and vitalism are just so many more red herrings.

I disagree, I think that the failure of spirit or soul to explain the animating force, and the success of what we call a metabolism..is thoroughly discrediting to that concept of spirit or soul, as a hypothetical created to explain the animating force.  I invited you to contribute more, but if you want me to go through each and every mis-attribution man has ever made using those two terms....we'll be in for a long night.....don't you agree....?

ps.  The way you quote leaves so much context out that it's difficult to determine what exactly you are responding to.  I've had to make do here by only responding in part, which is just as well as much of your response was mere evasion of the central issue, whether brain as we currently understand it can explain consciousness or not.

If I wanted to make that a central issue I probably wouldn't have granted you every comment you made at the outset, huh?  You've been trying to pick a fight I'm not interested in, because you misunderstood a statement I made about metabolism..which is, conveniently, exactly the thing that discredits spirit or soul as an animating force.....which is ofc...precisely what I've apparently failed to explain or establish...even though you've had me explain it to you three times now.....-because- you misunderstood.