(June 5, 2016 at 2:02 pm)IATIA Wrote:(June 5, 2016 at 1:46 pm)SteveII Wrote: The problem you are having with this your usage of the word fact. A fact is a property, a description of knowledge, "what is the case". The book nor the table are facts--they are objects. Declaring a statement as fact is the same as declaring it to be true. So your conclusion "facts are unchanging, truths are relative and subjective" is a contradiction.
A fact is something that has really occurred or is actually the case.
Truth is most often used to mean being in accord with fact or reality
Distinction without a difference.
A [fact] is something that has [truly] occurred or is [truly] the case.
Compared to:
A [truth] is something that has [factually] occurred or is [factually] the case
Or the other statement:
[Truth] is most often used to mean being in accord with [fact] or [factuality]
Compare
[Fact] is most often used to mean being in accord with [truth] or [truthfulness]
A distinction is being attempted when there is no difference. What you might mean is:
Fact = Objective/absolute Truth (the truth about the thing in question)
Subjective truth = the apparent truth about the thing in question in the mind of the subject
Truth = how well the subjective truth apparent to the subject matches the fact.
And if that is the case, you are inventing new words for already well understood concepts.
