RE: UK to leave EU
July 27, 2016 at 5:09 am
(This post was last modified: July 27, 2016 at 5:09 am by I_am_not_mafia.)
(July 26, 2016 at 7:24 pm)Napoléon Wrote: I think the world is a much different place from Nazi Germany.
Exactly. The world is a very different place from Nazi Germany. Which means that fascism will take on a different guise. No party will ever have any success if they laud Mussolini or Hitler.
Remember though, I didn't say that UKIP and Trump were fascist but:
(July 26, 2016 at 1:08 pm)Mathilda Wrote: I do consider UKIP and Trump to be more fascist than right wing authoritarian due to the techniques that they use to garner support.
Human nature hasn't changed. Regardless of whether you are looking at Nazi Germany or today's society, there exists the same percentage of people naturally inclined to be sociopaths, philanthropists, normal people, conscientious objectors, critical thinkers etc. This means that the same techniques work today that worked in the 20's and 30's. They need the right set of circumstances in order to find fertile ground, and more importantly an electorate who are new to the use of those techniques.
Also consider that German and Italian fascism were actually the exceptions. Most fascist movements, of which there were and still are many, either burn out or fail to gain power. That is the norm for fascist movements. Trump is unusual in that he hasn't ran as a third party but taken over the republicans from within. But what isn't unusual is that fascist movements will try to find any means by which to gain power.
As the saying goes, history never repeats but it does rhyme.
Also please notice that I have never called the Tory party fascist. I consider them to be right wing authoritarians.
(July 26, 2016 at 7:24 pm)Napoléon Wrote: And yet here you are, you must find me charming or something.
I must admit to enjoying poking you with a stick.