(September 21, 2016 at 12:57 pm)RobertE Wrote:
Just for you Drich and why I could never believe in a God, no matter how much I prayed at the time. This happens once every 3-4 years, then when it happens, it wakes me up automatically around 2:00am every morning for 3 months because it is linked with the circadian rythym. There is medication for it which are Triptans (injectable) or if you wish, oxygen from a tank. Either way, it has never stopped me going to work, it has never stopped me leaving work early (yes, it happens at least 2-3 times per day.) And you think I don't like the answer that your God gave me? As people, we were led to believe in praying for miracles. I tried that and it doesn't work, I still suffer so, what is the point? I am, just like many millions are living proof that praying for miracles just doesn't happen. It is about time that the religious took off their blinkers and looked at the real world, to see the suffering. Not just those who are terminally ill or suffer from serious illnesses, but those who live in poverty, who don't even have proper hygiene facilities, yet they look up to people like you who do NOT give a damn about those people as long as you are alright and taken care of. The church/synagogue/mosque or temple is simply a place for people who have the attitude of "sod you Jack, I'm alright."
...And this is why people think i am a sociopath:
Obviously, you have the mental wherewithal to formulate and defend your reasoning for disbelief in God, so then why could you not be held to the same standard I am without headaches? You expended the same mental energy to reach a place for or against God. so then why not be held to your lack of action or inaction? Does feeling sorry for yourself or pushing me to a position to feel sorry for you somehow lessen your 'moral responsibilities?' No absolutely not. You said "as a people we are lead to believe." Do you not know as an individual you are responsible for your own salvation through the atonement Christ offers? This means you being lead to believe anything is foolishness of your own doing. If your reading this you could just as easy read the bible, follow through some of the promises given and find the relief God has offered you, but again that is not what you did. You found a group of like minded people who believe God's only cure is to 'magic the bad away.' Well He didn't why? because that is not what He said do to find the relief you seek. Yet you hung your whole belief system on what like minded people think of God rather than doing your own research and finding out what God wants you to do.
Just so we are clear. You do not even understand the defination of prayer if you said you prayed for relief. That again is not prayer. we have only one example of prayer and healing of any kind is not apart of what makes a prayer. Healing is a form of petition, not prayer. Prayer is asking God to change you to use things like your headaches to better your understanding of Him and your role in life. Prayer is not to Change God's mind about your lot, it is about changing your mind to work with what you are given.
Petition is our way to ask God to change our lot in life. that is what you were doing, not praying.
So did God answer your prayer? Well, first of all you never prayed. Or rather what you listed out was not a prayer, therefore your conclusions based on what you did are based on a bad understanding of who and what God is. The only thing you proved is that your VERSION of the God of the bible does not exists.
Your fatal flaw? Pride, It's not wrong to build and hold a bad understand of God. What is not forgivable is to assume when the real God send the rains to knock down your foolish understanding that, because your first effort of trying to understand God was wrong, that no other version could possibly exist.
