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(June 3, 2011 at 12:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: Your right man does need the dog to complete the task as far as the trick goes when the dog is involved, man however can complete the task himself if need be. God never needs a man to complete His will, He can look down through history and see who He desires to put in place to work within His will, or if He desires He can do it Himself, God however has chosen to work through man to complete His will.
Regardless of whether God chooses to, or needs to, when using man, he therefore relies on man.
Godschild Wrote:Yes I'm saying God had nothing to do with the atrocities committed against the Indians. Man is capable of great inhumanities against man, you can believe no other way since you do not believe in God so I do not need to explain any further. God is good and can not commit evil as that would be sinful and God can not sin. I'm not saying that man does not do good man is capable of do good.
I agree that man is capable of great atrocities. My point, however, was why would God guide man to create a government, but not give them the insight not to slaughter a group of people. Having Native American roots, I resent the fact that God took the time to help form a country for white people, but sat by idly while my ancestors were rounded up and murdered.
Godschild Wrote:You can not say that as a truth because you can not disprove God, I do not have to prove there is a God because I know for myself that He is real and working in my life and that is all that is required on my part. It's not my fault you do not believe, you have chosen that for yourself, it's your responsibility as to how you chose to believe or not believe and that choice has no real bearing on me.
Actually, you made the claim that God guided the forming of the U.S., which requires you to present evidence for God's existsence, and that he was involved in the forming of this country. Otherwise your making extraordinary claims and backing them up with, "just trust me, I can tell." And it's a common misconception that atheists choose not to believe in God. We simply weigh all the evidence and come to a conclusion based on this evidence. There is no choice in the matter in the same way I have no choice when believing in gravity.
Just out of curiosity, what evidence would you accept demonstrating God guided the formation of the US?
If it ended up full of fundamentalist christian retards.....
........wait......
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.