(May 23, 2019 at 8:23 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: No one assumes no record you numpty, lol. If they did that, they wouldn't even run the check. If they don't get a flag back, they assume that the government is working properly rather than assuming someone is a murderer, lol..... Here's the thing, though, they -don't- have records...and again, whatever fantasies they may have and whatever reservations you and I have about that, those buyers and those guns are the "safest" in the nation.
Your father operated a dangerous piece of equipment while drunk. That happens. Is that a John Q problem, or a Big Gun problem?
It is a fucking access problem.
If you agree drunk people should not be handling firearms, then maybe the problem is, just like the mentally ill, just like domestic abusers, just like disturbed teens, just like a pissed off co worker, just like a racially and religiously motivated asshole, we should not assume when someone walks through the door of a gun shop, that that person is Barney Fife, Mr Rogers or Mary Poppins and will never do anything wrong after the purchase.
Just like we do not sell porn to kids, even though porn is legal, just like we don't hand out pilot's licences to someone the instant they ask for one.
Vetting isn't a denial of rights.
My dad should have had his his firearms taken from him. PERIOD, and our laws were not good enough to prevent him from buying them in the first place.
