RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 22, 2012 at 6:01 pm
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2012 at 6:08 pm by Jireh.)
(April 22, 2012 at 11:40 am)Stimbo Wrote: Other than our own consciences
so why do you have a conscience, but animals do not ?
http://www.cardinalnewmansociety.net/theology.html
Quote:"Man has within his breast a certain commanding dictate, not a mere sentiment, not a mere opinion or impression or view of things, but a law, an authoritative voice, bidding him do certain things and avoid others. I do not say that its particular injunctions are always clear, or that they are always consistent with each other; but what I am insisting on here is this, that it commands; that it praises, blames, it threatens, it implies a future, and it witnesses of the unseen. It is more than a man’s own self. The man himself has no power over it, or only with extreme difficulty; he did not make it, he cannot destroy it…. This is Conscience, and, from the nature of the case, its very existence carries our minds to a Being exterior to ourselves; for else, when did it come?..."
Quote:The combined forces of Britain, America, France, Russia, Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, China, Denmark, Greece, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, South Africa and Yugoslavia. Not to mention all the brave men and women from Axis nations who chose to risk, and in many cases lose, their lives fighting for the Allied cause. (And I'm sure there are others around here more history-savvy than I am who are going to pounce on me mercilessly after this).
It was just their opinion, Hitler was wrong......
Quote:Really, this simplistic binary view of the world in terms of good/evil or black/white is both naïve and harmful. If it were shown to you, unequivocally and absolutely, that your god does not exist, to what depths of depravity would you sink?
To no depravity, since there could nothing be called so. If i held torturing ,raping ank killing a new born baby as morally excellent, nobody could tell me i am wrong, since that is just a subjective, different position of mine, different than yours. It would be just different, not better , or worse, since good and evil cannot exist if not prescribed.
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God exist whether or not men may choose to believe in Him. The reason why many people do not believe in God is not so much that it is intellectually impossible to believe in God, but because belief in God forces that thoughtful person to face the fact that he is accountable to such a God. Robert A. Laidlaw
(April 22, 2012 at 11:40 am)tobie Wrote: You are the one making the claim, you need to provide evidence.
i have made no claim in my intructory post. I have just asked questions.
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/perfectproof.htm
Quote:Atheism is utterly destroyed and morally bankrupt because it has no answer to this prescient issue and never will. Ask an atheist what evidence he has for atheism? He will dodge the issue, spend an hour redefining atheism in multiple different conflicting ways and say he doesn't need a reason, because he just feels it in his burning bosom. Christians have a burning bosom of faith also, which certainly runs deeper with eternal life and the Holy Spirit within, but we don't say that is the sole reason. Our reasoning extends to many varied proofs for God (they are commonly cited among scholars as in Blackwell's Companion to Natural Theology). There is nothing new under the sun!
(April 22, 2012 at 2:18 pm)Voltair Wrote: There is no 100% proof that there is no such thing as a deity.
I know that. All i am asking, is to present good reasons to believe strong atheism is true. Why should strong atheism be a better explanation for our existence, than theism ?