(June 27, 2012 at 6:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Hahaha, we can 1v1 as soon as I resurrect my gaming rig from the dead (lord..please help me with this).'
I personally think that Hitchens contentions with regards to Iraq are(were) spot on, I don't think it is an area that was even open for debate, but I'm hardly an objective observer..hooah? Now, as to whther or not Galloway made good arguments, I'd have to watch that again and pick through them, but all that sticks with me from that debate (my introduction to hitchens btw, amusingly) was that it had less to do with Iraq and more to do with ideological showmanship. In that arena I'd say that the relative strength of an argument can only be judged by those already on-board with the party lines, know what I mean? After conceding that Iraq is a failed state, there is no counter argument, rgr? I can appreciate that debates don't occur without two sides, and if all that's left to one side are fallacies, well, fuck, do them justice. Did Galloway draw enough attention away from the issue with ad homs and attacks on political ideology, I don't know, I'm not part of the "other side" as it were.
I don't think we disagree so much. This is the only debate I've ever seen where I felt the need to bring up fallacy. (there are plenty of times I'll say "that's a fallacy" when hearing an argument from either side, but that's besides the point.) My SC2 add is TGSamael.563. Race?
Chris Roth
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