RE: The logical consequences of omnipotence
February 9, 2013 at 6:54 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2013 at 6:56 pm by Darkstar.)
(February 9, 2013 at 5:32 pm)catfish Wrote: He is like so many other atheists, he holds the "infallible" position when there is not one verse that ever says that a person is supposed to believe every word...
I am often confused by the "falliable position". Neither Dawkins nor I thinks the bible is infalliable; we both think it is seriously flawed. The problem is, I see the bible as pure fiction, so it can't make a mistake in regards to what god said because god never said anything. If you treat the bible as fiction, it seems odd to ask if the bible itself is a canonical account of events mentioned only within its own pages. I would compare it to arguing that the events in the Harry Potter books are an inaccurate potrayal of the real Harry Potter.
(February 9, 2013 at 5:32 pm)catfish Wrote: I look at your Proverbs quote as actually supporting my position. I.E. trust your heart, don't try to reason your way into believeing that something "evil" is good. Folks "reasoned" excuses for burning withes, starting wars, allowing crimes to be commited.I see you put reasoned in quotes, as in bad reasons. Which is true, of course.
(February 9, 2013 at 5:32 pm)catfish Wrote: I think it's the same reasoning that allows people to believe all the crap that they've been taught. Personally, I can never accept sacrifice as being good, yet folks like to "reason" away the evilness of human sacrifice and then call it "good". Fuck that, I trust my heart and my God and there's no way in Hades I could ever accept it as being righteous.
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People try to rationalize what is in the bible, but even if they didn't, they would still blindly accept it as true. People who are emotionally committed to religion will keep doing what they are doing if they follow their hearts. I think that one should be able to reason away these things, rather than in favor of them.
And yes, a conscience would tell you that these things are bad already, so...I guess the only differences here are:
1. I think the bible is actual fiction, whereas you see it as an inaccurate potrayal of something real.
2. You think a conscience is god in your heart letting you know what is right and wrong, and I think it is natural.
