(July 19, 2013 at 9:20 am)Rahul Wrote: Actually later in the post I do specifically mentioning that I could have called the cops because he threatened me.
But let me clue you in here. This happened around 1991. A) I would have had to leave the neighborhood anyway to go find a payphone (no cell phones) and B) "Terrorist" threat terminology didn't come into our legal banter until around the 911 attacks about a decade later.
It didn't matter that much to me. I really didn't give a fuck.
The man was still guilty of threatening you, and you should have gave a fuck. You had a civic duty to report this obviously dangerous person to the authorities in an attempt to help make society a more peaceful and civilized place.
Quote:If I'm feeling like an asshole I can walk up to anyone in America, including you, and say whatever the fuck I want to you. And you can do the same to me.
But you don't, and why? Because society views this type of behaviour as both morally and socially wrong.
That's why we should all be openly appalled by what George Zimmerman did.
Quote:That is our society. It's the way our society has always been. You've never noticed this? Where the fuck do you live?
I never have anyone question me about my motives when I'm out in public, and I wouldn't want to live in a society where I had to tolerate such questioning.
Quote:No they can't. Well, they can but later when the police get involved they're going to have problems. If they physically assault me they are breaking the law.
Not if they are the only party left to tell the story.
Quote:I've had security guards ask me questions before. What's the huge difference between a security quard and a neighborhood watch?
Security guards are trained and paid to provide security, and are typically uniformed individuals. For that reason, it's easier to accept and understand their inquiries.
Not saying that they have police level authority, but if an altercation develops as a result of them doing their job, it's reasonable understandable.
Quote:They didn't punish Zimmerman because he DIDN'T BREAK THE LAW.
That's what I said: Florida Law is a joke.
Quote:Trayvon broke the fuck out of the law.
According to the man who harrassed and then killed him.
Quote:What YOU are proposing is that if anyone walks up to me and asks me any questions I can attack you and YOU get in trouble with the law for talking to me.
Nope. What I'm proposing is that people without authority act accordingly. You have a civic duty to report suspicious or criminal activity.
Any action beyond that should be viewed as provoking.
Quote:Let me tell you another little story about back home when I was growing up.
I was one time at this keg party. At this house where a guy named Chris lived. They had a craps table out and were playing dice for money. I'm chilling with a cup of beer and casually say "Hey, what's up?" to this one guy I'm standing next to. He turns to me and I notice that he's pretty well drunk. And by the expression on his face he didn't look like a happy drunk. He looked pissed off.
He asks me, "Do you have any money?" I raise my eyebrows and reply, "Uhm... no."
So he says to me, "You better get the fuck out of here right now."
So I go, "Alrighty, then." and then walk through the crowd to the other side of the table. Now so far he hasn't broken any laws even though the level of implied threat by the way he's talking to me is pretty high.
So he's still standing there looking pissed and drunk and he's glaring at me from across the way. I'm thinking, "Well this could turn really ugly really fast."
But then as luck would have it Chris walks up, grabs the guy around the neck, and asks him, "Hey (whatever his name was), you're not trying to start shit at my party are you?" The guy immediately looked like a whimpering puppy.
You know why? Because Chris was one of the craziest mother fuckers in the tri-county area. Chris and a friend of his once crashed a party where they didn't know anyone. Completely surrounded by strangers. One of the locals walked up to Chris and told him to leave. Chris attacked him and ended up biting one of his ears completely off and then spit it on him.
The guy's friends take him and his ear to the hospital. Chris stayed and partied.
That's the kind of world I grew up in.
Great story! Great friends! Great attitude!
May the strong survive, brother!