RE: The bible identifies the Christ as a False Prophet
September 18, 2013 at 1:03 am
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2013 at 1:14 am by max-greece.)
(September 17, 2013 at 10:57 am)Godschild Wrote:
Matthew 16:24-28 are the verses that go together, Jesus is describing salvation which brings people into the Kingdom. Without the people there would be no Kingdom, an empty Kingdom is no Kingdom at all. The people are the church and the Kingdom is the church ie. the people.
GC
These are the verses you mentioned:
24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 25 For whoever wants to save their life[a] will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. 26 What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul? 27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.
28 “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
Now I know you guys are much better at this than me but it would appear to me that Jesus is saying that he will return (with his angels) and do the rewarding - as in down here on earth, personally,
I'd say the context supports my interpretation more than this referring to the establishment of the Church.
Late Edit:
I just want to try to illustrate what I am saying a bit better here:
To me this says Jesus was expecting to return (end of the world type stuff) within the lifetime of the disciples and that didn't happen.
Imagine the Church was never set up. Would you read it as "Bugger me - there was supposed to be a Church!"
It seems to me that you are equating what was predicted with what actually happened and then making the tenuous link merely to keep consistency even though it really doesn't seem to fit properly.