The catch-all gun thread

[TheBeardedDude]

As I have already said, in regards to having your cake and eating it too:

In any event, while the violent crime rate (aka, assaults) is up, deaths and deaths by firearm are down. I would not mind living in a society where violent crime resulted in injury instead of death. Especially if we could curb the mass shootings.

You can't imply the deaths going down (including mass shootings) is due to the firearm laws, cede that violent assaults going up, but then when I add that violent crime includes both assaults and sexual assaults, have a go at me for relevance to the gun laws. Well you can, but i'll have none of it.

I didn't say the decreases in deaths were due to the gun laws. I did not demonstrate a causal connection for deaths overall, death by gun, or suicide, or even suicide by gun. The coincidental drop is a welcomed one (even if not in the country I live in), and one I would like to see mirrored in the US. Gun laws may not be the only contributor. Healthcare and especially mental healthcare, plus a stable economy with low unemployment, won't hurt either. But I believe gun laws can fundamentally help. They don't appear to hurt anywhere I have ever looked.