RE: A Challenge for the Atheist
January 9, 2014 at 7:32 pm
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2014 at 2:08 pm by LastPoet.)
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: A christian friend of mine sent me a list of these questions. How would you guys respond to each?No. Are you absolutely sure there is a god?
1. Are you absolutely sure there is no God?
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: If not, then is it not possible that there is a God?Sure... Also, is it not possible that there is no god?
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: And if it is possible that God exists, then can you think of any reason that would keep you from wanting to look at the evidence?Evidence, is what I want. Present it, if you have it.
I seriously doubt you do...
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 2. Would you agree that intelligently designed things call for an intelligent designer of them?LOL... loaded question...
Do you agree that a ball is round?
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: If so, then would you agree that evidence for intelligent design in the universe would be evidence for a designer of the universe?There's no such evidence.
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 3. Would you agree that nothing cannot produce something?Define "nothing".
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: If so, then if the universe did not exist but then came to exist, wouldn’t this be evidence of a cause beyond the universe?Could the Universe be uncaused?
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 4. Would you agree with me that just because we cannot see something with our eyes—such as our mind, gravity, magnetism, the wind—that does not mean it doesn’t exist?Another loaded question?
Measurable quantities do not rely only on "our eyes"...
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 5. Would you also agree that just because we cannot see God with our eyes does not necessarily mean He doesn’t exist?The same could be said of any of the roughly 2700 gods that humanity has worshiped...
Which means that any one particular god has almost no chance of existing...
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 6. In the light of the big bang evidence for the origin of the universe, is it more reasonable to believe that no one created something out of nothing or someone created something out of nothing?Why should I have to believe in anything?
Remember "evidence"? I follow it where it leads.
If there was someone who could create something out of nothing, then of what sort of nothing was this someone made of?
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 7. Would you agree that something presently exists?Sure feels like it.
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: If something presently exists, and something cannot come from nothing, then would you also agree that something must have always existed?"something cannot come from nothing"?... that is not established.
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 8. If it takes an intelligent being to produce an encyclopedia, then would it not also take an intelligent being to produce the equivalent of 1000 sets of an encyclopedia full of information in the first one-celled animal? (Even atheists such as Richard Dawkins acknowledges that “amoebas have as much information in their DNA as 1000 Encyclopaedia Britannicas.” Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker (New York: WW. Norton and Co., 1996), 116.)Who said the first living being was an animal?
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 9. If an effect cannot be greater than its cause (since you can’t give what you do not have to give), then does it not make more sense that mind produced matter than that matter produced mind, as atheists say?That's a mighty IF... And wrong.
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 10. Is there anything wrong anywhere?The IF in the previous question was wrong.
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: If so, how can we know unless there is a moral law?What does a moral law have to do with knowing anything?
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 11. If every law needs a lawgiver, does it not make sense to say a moral law needs a Moral Lawgiver?Another wrong IF...
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 12. Would you agree that if it took intelligence to make a model universe in a science lab, then it took super-intelligence to make the real universe?Another mighty IF...
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 13. Would you agree that it takes a cause to make a small glass ball found in the woods?Glass requires high temperatures, silicon... to make it round requires some bounds.
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: And would you agree that making the ball larger does not eliminate the need for a cause?What do you mean, "make the ball larger"?
Add more material? or increase the size of a hollow ball, still warm?
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: If so, then doesn’t the biggest ball of all (the whole universe) need a cause?The whole Universe is made of glass? And it's in the woods?
You're not making a whole lot of sense...
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 14. If there is a cause beyond the whole finite (limited) universe, would not this cause have to be beyond the finite, namely, non-finite or infinite?No.
Could be larger and still finite.
Could be smaller and thus finite.
Remember the big bang happened when the Universe is thought to have been smaller than a Plank length...
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: 15. In the light of the anthropic principle (that the universe was fine-tuned for the emergence of life from its very inception), wouldn’t it make sense to say there was an intelligent being who preplanned human life?Perhaps the anthropic principle is wrong...
intelligent being who preplanned human life... how presumptuous of you lowly human....
(January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm)eeeeeee7 Wrote: <Link Removed>
Yeah, right... a "friend".... -.-'
