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One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
(February 28, 2014 at 1:22 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: My parents have told me people choose to reject God and go to hell, atheists really DO believe but are just denying it.

I really do need to jump in here, because this is a claim that just drives me insane whenever I hear it. Engage your critical thinking and let me take you down the primrose path of what your parents' claim here actually entails.

Let's accept, for a moment, that this is correct, and atheists really do believe there's a god: why deny it? Don't say "so they can go on sinning," because that doesn't make any sense; if we really do believe there's a god then we understand that sinning will send us to hell, and so there's no actual use in denying it, since that's not going to save us or change anything. And don't say "so we don't have to feel guilty," either, because we've already established that we do believe in a god, and so the source of that guilt is still there, and if we're in denial about something we obviously feel guilty enough about it to deny at all.

So what's the point? What do we actually gain from denying god, if we do secretly believe? We can't change our fate, we can't escape the guilt, so... what's the point in denying it? Where's the motivation, there?

Especially since salvation is through faith and not works, according to your religion; we could keep sinning all we want and still be saved so long as we accept Jesus, so all we'd really be doing by denying him is sealing our fate in hell unnecessarily. And since I've just enumerated all these reasons for you right now, you surely understand that I'm aware of them all, so you can't claim my denial is based on ignorance or some pragmatic reason either, since I've listed an infinite reward for doing the opposite of what you claim I'm doing.

How is this "you really do believe!" schtick not coming across as nonsense to you?

More importantly, it's just plain rude, your parents sitting there and robbing us of our voices by pretending to know what we think better than we do. We're people, with thoughts and emotions all our own, not one-note strawmen for your folks to demean for credibility. I hope this shows you should take what they say- what anyone says, really- with a grain of salt.
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 1:38 pm

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