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atheism to be illegal in the E. U.
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RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U.
(March 7, 2014 at 5:20 pm)Tiberius Wrote:
(March 7, 2014 at 3:18 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: fine you agree with most of what is in the article then why can you not see that this will sensor atheism
You can't "censor" atheism. Atheism is an idea; a lack of belief. It exists whether governments make laws about it or not.

What you can do is censor atheists themselves; that is, prevent them from spreading atheism in public. However, that is not what is happening here. Nothing in the idea of atheism is inherently anti-religious. You can be an atheist without breaking this law. You can
Quote:yes but what about the sale of book by authors such as dawkins and hitchins you know in the eu antiislamic films and books are banned in schools and on the shelves
None of those things are making atheism illegal, which is what you claimed in the title.
Quote:also secular television programs may be banned idk
Go look up the word "secular" and you'll know why this claim is bullshit as well. Secularism is the separation of church and state. Nothing to do with atheism, nothing to do with insulting religion or religious groups.
Quote:also websites like this could be sensored for promoting hate speech. This does not sound like science fiction to me
We don't promote hate speech. We don't ban it, but that's because the community supports freedom of speech. If the site was threatened by any law that restricted freedom of speech, we would simply move the server to the US.
mabey so but secular may be interpreted as an agressive form of speech towards religion. Also here in the us most people see the founding fathers as religious people not deists or atheists. So it could happen

(March 7, 2014 at 5:20 pm)Tiberius Wrote:
(March 7, 2014 at 3:18 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: fine you agree with most of what is in the article then why can you not see that this will sensor atheism
You can't "censor" atheism. Atheism is an idea; a lack of belief. It exists whether governments make laws about it or not.

What you can do is censor atheists themselves; that is, prevent them from spreading atheism in public. However, that is not what is happening here. Nothing in the idea of atheism is inherently anti-religious. You can be an atheist without breaking this law. You can
Quote:yes but what about the sale of book by authors such as dawkins and hitchins you know in the eu antiislamic films and books are banned in schools and on the shelves
None of those things are making atheism illegal, which is what you claimed in the title.
Quote:also secular television programs may be banned idk
Go look up the word "secular" and you'll know why this claim is bullshit as well. Secularism is the separation of church and state. Nothing to do with atheism, nothing to do with insulting religion or religious groups.
Quote:also websites like this could be sensored for promoting hate speech. This does not sound like science fiction to me
We don't promote hate speech. We don't ban it, but that's because the community supports freedom of speech. If the site was threatened by any law that restricted freedom of speech, we would simply move the server to the US.
the founders of america had a dream of free and equal people unopressed by religion and that vision has been obliterated
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Messages In This Thread
atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 6, 2014 at 10:17 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by KUSA - March 6, 2014 at 10:27 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 6, 2014 at 10:29 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Chad32 - March 6, 2014 at 10:30 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 6, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Nine - March 7, 2014 at 6:57 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 7, 2014 at 10:53 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by xpastor - March 7, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 7, 2014 at 11:01 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 7, 2014 at 11:09 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Bittersmart - March 8, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by DarkHorse - March 7, 2014 at 11:06 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Napoléon - March 7, 2014 at 11:11 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 7, 2014 at 11:24 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Napoléon - March 7, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 7, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Kayenneh - March 7, 2014 at 11:37 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 7, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 7, 2014 at 11:40 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Kayenneh - March 7, 2014 at 11:40 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Assimilate - March 7, 2014 at 11:52 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 7, 2014 at 11:54 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Tiberius - March 7, 2014 at 2:28 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Kayenneh - March 7, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Tiberius - March 7, 2014 at 2:35 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 7, 2014 at 3:18 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by xpastor - March 7, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 7, 2014 at 4:28 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Kayenneh - March 7, 2014 at 2:41 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Tiberius - March 7, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 7, 2014 at 5:32 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 7, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Tiberius - March 7, 2014 at 8:39 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 7, 2014 at 9:19 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by *Deidre* - March 8, 2014 at 12:30 am
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 8, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by *Deidre* - March 8, 2014 at 2:28 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 8, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by xpastor - March 8, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Whateverist - March 8, 2014 at 1:24 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 8, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by Ryantology - March 8, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by *Deidre* - March 8, 2014 at 3:02 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 8, 2014 at 3:14 pm
RE: atheism to be illegal in the E. U. - by nintendo048 - March 8, 2014 at 4:58 pm

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