DESTROY NOAH'S ARK
March 28, 2014 at 12:45 am
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2014 at 12:51 am by Rampant.A.I..)
(March 27, 2014 at 8:53 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(March 27, 2014 at 8:30 pm)Chas Wrote: You are not being logical. "I don't know" is the only rational answer.
We have good evidence that something like the Big Bang occurred, we have no evidence of multiverses or gods.
I don't believe any of the explanations, but I only seriously consider the ones for which there is evidence.
I also summarily dismiss the ones that are non-logical or contradictory such as a steady-state universe or one that involves a creator that is eternal.
But you stated
(March 27, 2014 at 6:27 pm)Chas Wrote: And your descriptions of what your god can do are indistinguishable from magic.
mag·ic
ˈmajik/
noun
- the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces.
It seems to me that the "big bang" falls under that definition. So if you agree with the "big bang" theory (and it sounds like you lean in that direction) then explain how the universe creating itself out of nothing is not as ridiculous or as "magical" as God doing it?
Natural events not involving supernatural forces would by definition be the opposite of influence by supernatural forces.
(March 28, 2014 at 12:14 am)Godschild Wrote:(March 27, 2014 at 6:09 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Really.
A sea grass that lives in relatively warm, shallow salt water (Mediterranean Sea from 1-35 meters depth) could survive after being submerged in deeper, colder brackish water as well as silt / sedimentation?
You know this, how?
You do realize that the habitat ranges of sea life tends to be a lot narrower than "must live in water", do you not?
Of coarse I know that. You however do not know the conditions any more than I do, I said it was possible and apparently it survived.
GC
(March 27, 2014 at 6:27 pm)Chas Wrote: Your 'definition' was incorrect.
"Kind were those which can not interbreed, that does not hold true with today's definition of species."
That definition lacks the necessity of producing fertile offspring.
Regardless, you completely underestimate even how many 'kinds' there would be.
And your descriptions of what your god can do are indistinguishable from magic.
mag·ic
ˈmajik/
noun
- the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces.
You sir are now being ridiculous.
Yes, how dare you bring factual definitions for words into a discussion! That disproves his claim he doesn't believe in magic! For shame!
(March 27, 2014 at 10:04 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(March 27, 2014 at 8:56 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Can u define a god?
God simply means "object of worship" which is why in the beginning, God was not "God" but was called "Elohim" or self existing one. As far as definition goes, I would have a much better chance at defining the universe than God (Is the creation greater than the creator?). Which is why I choose to accept it by faith.
I don't understand why the word "faith" so irksome to so many of you when you yourselves acknowledge that you can provide no answers.
(March 27, 2014 at 9:01 pm)Chad32 Wrote: convinced me. Now how do we get from deism (universe created by a deity), to your god? Unless you are a deist yourself.
I'm not sure I understand the question.
Because "I don't know" is not an expression of faith.
"I don't know, it could be X but there's more evidence for Y, so it's probably Y"
"I don't know, therefore the only logical explanation is G, O, A, and E" is an expression of faith.
And faith + lack of evidence or evidence to the contrary = irrational faith.
Words have meaning. Deal with it.
