RE: Intelligent Design: Did you design yourself?
May 30, 2014 at 1:05 pm
(This post was last modified: May 30, 2014 at 1:12 pm by Heywood.)
(May 30, 2014 at 11:39 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: That's a pretty useless usage of 'lineage'. Every single synthesized nucleus would be a new lineage if you stick with common descent as the criteria, but we won't be generating new genetic information just for the fun of it. It will be long, difficult work to make a variation distinct enough from the existing lineage that you can tell it's artificial without 'water marks'. The vast majority of new species we create, especially over the next 40 years, will be modifications of existing genetic information, even if we build the germ cells from scratch, and without watermarks would appear to a geneticist as belonging to the same lineage as other life on earth.
We've got two new 'letters' for DNA, but building a genome that functions out of them rather than just inserting them here and there is incredibly daunting.
This is just a difference of opinion on how fast things are going to change, and not that germane to the main issues at hand. I could certainly be underestimating how quickly things will change.
You agree that at some point, on earth, most lineages of life will be the result of intelligent design. If this is true of the earth, and it appears this will soon be the case, Why couldn't it be true of the universe itself?
(May 30, 2014 at 1:04 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(May 30, 2014 at 1:02 pm)Heywood Wrote: The proposal that certain features of the universe or certain biological systems are intelligently designed is either true or false regardless of their belief....it just so happens to be true.I think you might to do a little more work on the second part there amigo.
I've already shown the second part is true earlier in the thread.
(May 30, 2014 at 1:04 pm)Rhythm Wrote: They have examples of things that aren't "intellect" and -do- create noise. Maybe I did miss this, believe it's been asked...do you have any examples of something that wasn't designed?
I can only give you examples of things assumed to be un-designed. However without an objective means to determine what is designed and what isn't, such assumptions aren't really reliable. This is why I think concepts like intelligent design and irreducible complexity have merit. They may be wrong, but the idea of obtaining an objective means to determine what is designed and what isn't is certainly a noble one.
