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Intelligent Design
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Intelligent Design
December 23, 2015 at 5:32 pm
What's the best way to refute the argument that we were intelligently designed? I've seen the bit that Neil Degrasse Tyson did on it, but what else can I put into my arsenal? (More specifically, about how complex flowers are and other things in nature)
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RE: Intelligent Design
December 23, 2015 at 5:40 pm
Usually when they want to use that argument, they basically argue for deism, then make a giant leap from "creator god" to "my theistic god". How do you get from "the universe needed a creator" to "Yahweh/Allah/Jesus is lord"? You could google a long list of creator gods that people have worshiped, so all you've done is narrow it down to them at best. And they're not just different versions of the same guy.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Intelligent Design
December 23, 2015 at 7:18 pm
Quote:What's the best way to refute the argument that we were intelligently designed?

By pointing out the evident sub-optimal 'design' we see around us. If human beings were intelligently designed, then it becomes pretty tough to rationally explain things like cancer, tooth decay, vestigial organ, or our obviously close relationship to other primates.

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RE: Intelligent Design
December 23, 2015 at 7:20 pm (This post was last modified: December 23, 2015 at 7:20 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
oops.

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RE: Intelligent Design
December 23, 2015 at 7:23 pm
This is good:

http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integri...nssJFnC7s0

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01
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RE: Intelligent Design
December 23, 2015 at 7:28 pm
(December 23, 2015 at 7:23 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: This is good:

http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integri...nssJFnC7s0

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01

Just as a question for someone educated thoroughly on evolution... What's the explanation for the difference in gender?
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RE: Intelligent Design
December 23, 2015 at 7:44 pm
Common sense and a science book.
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RE: Intelligent Design
December 23, 2015 at 7:45 pm
(December 23, 2015 at 7:28 pm)Veritas Wrote:
(December 23, 2015 at 7:23 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: This is good:

http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integri...nssJFnC7s0

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01

Just as a question for someone educated thoroughly on evolution... What's the explanation for the difference in gender?

Just as a question for someone who clearly has internet access...You do realize you can look up these things yourself, correct?

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RE: Intelligent Design
December 23, 2015 at 7:52 pm
(December 23, 2015 at 7:45 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(December 23, 2015 at 7:28 pm)Veritas Wrote: Just as a question for someone educated thoroughly on evolution... What's the explanation for the difference in gender?

Just as a question for someone who clearly has internet access...You do realize you can look up these things yourself, correct?

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RE: Intelligent Design
December 23, 2015 at 7:55 pm
Don't go getting pissy with me, new guy. You can operate a search engine as well as anyone here.

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