(May 30, 2014 at 6:19 pm)Heywood Wrote:(May 30, 2014 at 6:03 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So, for the record..are you proposing a designer that created the first spark..or one that just keeps stepping in every time a new "lineage" crops up?
I am proposing that it will soon be a human experience that lineages of life are the products of intelligent design. And without ever observing a lineage coming into existence naturally, people will have a strong rationale to believe that our lineage of life is the product of intelligent design. If we apply our rule for determining if something is designed or not, that rule will suggest our lineage is a designed thing.
The atheists will be the ones needing to justify the claim that our lineage is the results of natural processes. Yes Stimbo....this is shifting of the burden of proof....but it is not me doing the shifting. What is shifting the burden of proof is the circumstances we now find ourselves in.
It is this change in circumstances that is putting the atheistic position on a weaker footing. Maybe it is time you re-think your positions.
Very well.
I applaud your effort. It is a good one, for sure.
But it's still a shifting of the burden of proof.
It rests on the fact that humans have designed and built some life form.
Humans are the only evidence of "intelligent designers" that you are presenting.
So then you propose that there were humans before there were humans in order to design those humans, huh?
Oh, but that can't be, so it must have been something else... dinosaurs?... nah... they were lizards! so something else... hey, we have this book here...
If you want us to accept that there is an intelligent designer, you must present one, only then you may show that that designer was responsible for designing life on Earth.
Until then, natural causes are all we have to work with. Theories exist, one has shown remarkable resilience to new evidence, so it has become accepted. The details are still being ironed out, but you can't trump your wishful thinking all over that theory.
