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isn't so bad. Just needs a little work.
11.11%
3 11.11%
just needs the right political party in charge.
11.11%
3 11.11%
does enough good to overlook the bad.
3.70%
1 3.70%
is a completely corrupt regime in need of overthrowing.
33.33%
9 33.33%
sucks.
40.74%
11 40.74%
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The Almighty US Government
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RE: The Almighty US Government
(June 27, 2014 at 8:45 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(June 27, 2014 at 8:30 pm)Heywood Wrote: I also realize there are two issue here which are interwoven. Free Speech and Money in politics. If I want free speech(and I do) I have to accept that money will be in politics.

As previously explained, stopping people from buying more speech doesn't mean they don't have free speech.

Stopping people from buying more free speech is imposing a restriction on their ability to speak. They simply have less ability than they would have before they were stopped from buying more free speech.

You are happy with restricting the free speech of people wealthier than you. Would you be happy if people poorer than you decided you were spending too much of your wealth on your speech?

You can't separate these two issues. Unfettered free speech means there is going to be money in politics. I'd rather have unfettered free speech than have money removed from politics.
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Messages In This Thread
The Almighty US Government - by Cinjin - June 25, 2014 at 9:05 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Napoléon - June 25, 2014 at 9:14 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by BlackSwordsman - June 25, 2014 at 11:39 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Minimalist - June 25, 2014 at 11:48 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by vorlon13 - June 25, 2014 at 11:52 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Minimalist - June 25, 2014 at 11:57 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by vorlon13 - June 26, 2014 at 12:00 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Minimalist - June 26, 2014 at 12:02 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Mudhammam - June 26, 2014 at 12:20 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Napoléon - June 26, 2014 at 7:13 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Whateverist - June 26, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by JuliaL - June 26, 2014 at 2:43 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Heywood - June 26, 2014 at 10:08 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by vorlon13 - June 26, 2014 at 10:15 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Heywood - June 26, 2014 at 11:13 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by KUSA - June 26, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Isun - June 26, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Cinjin - June 26, 2014 at 7:49 pm
Re: RE: The Almighty US Government - by KUSA - June 26, 2014 at 7:31 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Isun - June 26, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Cinjin - June 26, 2014 at 10:48 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by DeistPaladin - June 26, 2014 at 11:01 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Cinjin - June 26, 2014 at 11:06 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Ravenshire - June 26, 2014 at 11:23 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Heywood - June 27, 2014 at 10:20 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by DeistPaladin - June 27, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Heywood - June 27, 2014 at 11:53 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by DeistPaladin - June 27, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Heywood - June 27, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Heywood - June 27, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by DeistPaladin - June 27, 2014 at 2:12 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Heywood - June 27, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by DeistPaladin - June 27, 2014 at 3:30 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Heywood - June 27, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by DeistPaladin - June 27, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Heywood - June 27, 2014 at 8:30 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by DeistPaladin - June 27, 2014 at 8:45 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Heywood - June 27, 2014 at 8:51 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by DeistPaladin - June 27, 2014 at 9:11 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Mudhammam - June 27, 2014 at 12:31 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Minimalist - June 27, 2014 at 12:14 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Crossless1 - June 27, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Crossless1 - June 27, 2014 at 2:21 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Minimalist - June 27, 2014 at 7:47 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Cinjin - June 28, 2014 at 3:55 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Heywood - July 1, 2014 at 10:27 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Cato - July 1, 2014 at 11:01 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by DeistPaladin - July 1, 2014 at 11:02 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Minimalist - June 28, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Cinjin - June 29, 2014 at 3:12 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by The Grand Nudger - June 28, 2014 at 5:50 pm
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Cinjin - June 29, 2014 at 3:10 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by The Grand Nudger - June 29, 2014 at 3:22 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by Cinjin - June 29, 2014 at 3:40 am
RE: The Almighty US Government - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2014 at 3:18 am

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