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The barbarians destroyed the empire after the empire had become somewhat Christian.

GC

Yes, but I'm not sure why you're sharing that with me. My point earlier had to do with how 'barbarian' was how the Greco-Roman world saw everyone else, whether in a pejorative sense or not. This would have included Persians, North Africans, Germanic and Gallic tribes, Jews -- all of them.

Anyway, carry on.

Yes I understood what you were saying.

GC

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How is it that people who claim to be so smart act like stupidity is their norm?

Because smart people tend to get flack from morons especially Neil Degrass Tyson even though he was poking fun at Christmas recently. If people cannot take a joke well that's their problem. Humanity is unfortunate have people who think Physicists are unimportant and do not contribute to the world. I mean think of it GC what if just what if the world didn't have the smart innovative people in it in the past and future. We wouldn't get far as we would be still in the dark ages. So when smart people say stupidity is their norm they usually mean the society at large or the people who are theists, exclude the children i think they had enough and besides the newer generations are pretty smart.

I was speaking of the ability to use common sense in matters where logic and common sense meet.
Speaking of where we would be without smart people, not very far, however it's what smart people do with their intelligence. All the money, even half the money spent on the space program would have been enough to feed all the starving people of this world. What we have learned about things in space has not considerably improved the lives of starving people. Atheist here ask why does God (one they do not believe in) allow people to starve, well I ask this why do people allow other people to starve, are these people less important to you than science, specifically sciences of the space program. So for atheist who is suppose to feed the starving, the Christian church is trying hard, but we are limited in funds, so where are the atheist besides pointing fingers. I'm sure someone will try to rationalize why what I said isn't true but, the truth is mankind is responsible for others who are starving, yet science that can't benefit them and their needs gets the money. This is a shame that man is guilty of, period.

GC

PS who wrote that for you, that's not how you write?

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The barbarians destroyed the empire after the empire had become somewhat Christian.

GC

Another way to say that is even worshiping an almighty god couldn't protect the Romans from worldly forces.

Just wanted to point that out.

To bad you do not understand punishment of wicked people.

GC

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But the ones doing the overrunning were also mostly christians. Arians when it comes to the Goths. So are we to assume, the Arian god was the real thing after all?

They weren't pagan? <scurries off to the books>

Thanks for the learning tip, this is clearly something I need to read more on.

More than that is apparent.

GC

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After demolishing the so-called 'gospels' Carrier has moved on to the epistles. This should be good.

This is just a teaser:

As a psychologist once put it (about Paul's letter to fellow congregants in Rome, whom he had not yet met and thus can't have shared his own stories with):

Imagine for a moment that one of your friends writes you a twenty-page letter passionately wanting to share her excitement about a new teacher. This letter has only one topic, your friend's new teacher. [But] at the end of her letter, you still do not know one thing about her teacher. Yet, Paul presents the central figure of his theology this way . . . . It [seems] impossible to imagine how Paul could avoid telling one story or parable of--or fail to note one physical trait or personal quality of-Jesus. 3

Because the psychologist isn't smart enough to consider the four gospels, Paul found no need to repeat what was said by those who lived with Jesus.

GC