(February 25, 2015 at 12:44 am)bennyboy Wrote:(February 24, 2015 at 11:28 pm)Surgenator Wrote: How do you know it was always going to hit the paper? The fact that it hit the paper doesn't prove that it was always going to hit the paper. How fast did I move the paper according to the photon reference frame? Infinitely fast. How can my hand move faster than the speed of light?It can't, so it didn't. From the photon's frame, your hand couldn't have moved, and therefore it didn't. Despite the photon seeming to "move" from our perspective it actually represents a curve through spacetime, immalleable and unchangeable. And therefore. . . determinism.
If my hand moved in my frame, it moved in all frames.
Quote:Quote:IATIA reminded me of something else. What is the speed of light in the photons reference frame? What is the speed of light in any other reference frame? Do you realize the contradiction yet? The fundamental assumption for relativity, the speed of light is the same in all proper inertial reference frame, is a contradiction in the photons reference frame. The photon suppose to be going at 3e8 m/s in its reference frame, but its suppose to be at rest in its reference frame. Contradiction! That is the conceptual reason why the photon reference frame is invalid.That's right. In its own frame of reference, the photon is not moving. . . for 0.0000000000000000000 seconds, after which it is absorbed into a receiving medium. In other words, the photon draws the projecting medium and the receiving medium into a single point in spacetime. That zero distance represents a collapse of the universe into a singularity-- tricky, naughty little photon!
Special relativity axiom is violated in the photon's reference frame. The axiom states the speed of light is constant in all inertial reference frame. That is not the case for the photon's reference frame. Special relativity isn't valid. It doesn't how far the photon traveled or how long it existed, the axiom is still violated.