(November 6, 2013 at 4:55 am)ToriJ Wrote:(November 5, 2013 at 2:21 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why is it unfair for God to punish for an eternity, would it actually be fair to reward for eternity and then not punish for eternity?
What he is punishing is unfair because he set up the circumstances which led to such a need in the first place.
Scripture tells us that God doesn't tempt, so how is it you can blame God for your sin, did He force you to make wrong decisions. If you happen to be talking about Adam and Eve, then you must believe that God shouldn't have given us choice.
(November 5, 2013 at 2:21 pm)Godschild Wrote: How is it you believe that Christians pick and choose what they read from scripture? Are you judging others by what you practiced?
Quote:Observation. The bible says a woman is not to speak in the temple. How many women speak during church? How many women are preachers?
That's all you got, surely you can do better than that, is the temple the same as the church. The temple is a building after all.
Quote:They're always quoting scripture about how God condemns homosexuality and then ignore all the other things he condemns in the bible, or condones for that matter. Such as slavery. How many Christians condones slavery?
I do not know of any Christians that condone slavery, yet there are tens of thousands of atheist who believe in slave trafficking young girls in the sex slave trade.
(November 5, 2013 at 2:21 pm)Godschild Wrote: In another thread I mentioned I did not think you had learned much while you were in church, this above statement you made reassures me of that. The whole statement is wrong.
Quote:How is it wrong and in which area? Wouldn't it be the church's fault for not teaching me correctly? Why are so many churches teaching different things and interpreting scripture differently? Why doesn't someone step in to correct this?
It's your responsibility to learn, if you believed the church was teaching you wrong you should have gone to scripture to find the truth. I do not always take even my pastor as teaching everything right, so I investigate. People usually join a denomination because it teaches for the most part what they believe, if you did not think what you were being taught was correct you could have searched out a different denomination. Most all denominations that I know teach salvation through belief in Christ and grace by the Father.
(November 5, 2013 at 2:21 pm)Godschild Wrote: I agree, fear is no way to have a relationship and, Jesus shows us that love and peace are the foundation of a relationship with God.
Quote:And his father sends you to a place of torment if you don't. But sons are usually more rational than their fathers.
You are the one who chooses hell, you could choose Christ you know. Besides you are punished for your unforgiven sin, one can get into heaven by not committing any sins. I knew you did not learn much when you were in church or you would know the Father and Son are of one mind.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.