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Is truth relative?
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RE: Is truth relative?
(January 24, 2015 at 7:34 pm)bennyboy Wrote: We know that some truths are relative. For example, the passing of time. In another thread, we talked about how a photon traveling from the sun will not "experience" time at all while it travels 1000 light years from our perspective to a distant planet. In this case, time has both really passed, and not passed at all.
-and in that case it's time, not truth, that's relative. You can still count on the clock in either framework to give you a "true reading" of time - that the readings are different is also true.

Quote:But is it possible that ALL truth/truths are relative to their framework-- i.e. that things which are really true in the world people live in can be really false in another framework? Does this mean we cannot say, "X is true," but rather "X is true in our framework"?
Firstly, isn't that all that's ever implied in the claim of truth? Secondly, whats not in our framework? Relativity and time, and all of the variable measurements that might be made are all still within our framework (or we wouldn't know about them). What does truth even mean in some other "framework"? Truth is in our framework as well. If we leave our framework then nothing means what it does - if it even exists there, in our framework, here. This is a deepity, "things would be different...if things were different".

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Messages In This Thread
Is truth relative? - by bennyboy - January 24, 2015 at 7:34 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by Dystopia - January 24, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by bennyboy - January 24, 2015 at 8:56 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by Tonus - January 24, 2015 at 9:00 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by bennyboy - January 24, 2015 at 9:12 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by IATIA - January 24, 2015 at 11:10 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by bennyboy - January 25, 2015 at 12:28 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by IATIA - January 25, 2015 at 12:35 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by bennyboy - January 25, 2015 at 3:10 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by Neo-Scholastic - January 25, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by bennyboy - January 25, 2015 at 8:17 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by Alex K - January 25, 2015 at 10:39 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 24, 2015 at 8:02 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by Minimalist - January 24, 2015 at 8:02 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by Darkstar - January 24, 2015 at 8:28 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by ManMachine - January 24, 2015 at 8:35 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by The Grand Nudger - January 24, 2015 at 11:15 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by Davka - January 24, 2015 at 11:42 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by Mudhammam - January 25, 2015 at 12:20 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by robvalue - January 25, 2015 at 3:34 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by bennyboy - January 25, 2015 at 8:19 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by downbeatplumb - January 25, 2015 at 1:17 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by Dystopia - January 25, 2015 at 10:52 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2015 at 9:22 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by Alex K - January 25, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by bennyboy - January 25, 2015 at 12:18 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by Alex K - January 25, 2015 at 10:54 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by bennyboy - January 25, 2015 at 11:10 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by The Grand Nudger - January 26, 2015 at 12:35 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by bennyboy - January 26, 2015 at 5:11 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by Alex K - January 26, 2015 at 5:42 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by The Grand Nudger - January 26, 2015 at 7:54 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by Brian37 - January 26, 2015 at 8:39 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by bennyboy - January 26, 2015 at 9:47 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by Brian37 - January 26, 2015 at 9:54 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by bennyboy - January 26, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by Brian37 - January 26, 2015 at 12:26 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by tantric - January 26, 2015 at 10:27 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by Brian37 - January 26, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: Is truth relative? - by Davka - January 26, 2015 at 12:55 pm
RE: Is truth relative? - by The Grand Nudger - January 26, 2015 at 10:30 am

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