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why i believe in Islam?
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RE: why i believe in Islam?
Quote:About Strong drink;

16:67
And of the fruits of the date-palm, and grapes, whence ye derive strong drink and (also) good nourishment. Lo! therein is indeed a portent for people who have sense.

2:219
Strong drink and games of chance. Say: In both is great sin.

i dont see the contradiction here in the first verse(16:67) we are shown how a bad thing like alcohol and also good things like grapes come from the same thing

in the second verse(2:219)we are told that strong drink is a great sin

Quote:How long is a day to Alllah?

22:47
A Day with Allah is as a thousand years of what ye reckon. 32:5 He directeth the ordinance from the heaven unto the earth; then it ascendeth unto Him in a Day, whereof the measure is a thousand years of that ye reckon.

70:4
Unto Him in a Day whereof the span is fifty thousand years.

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in the first verse(22:47) it says "......is as a thousand years" wich means is like a thousand years

and in the second verse(70:4) means "Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years..."
thats two different occasions

and in the second its talking about the sinners in the day of judgment will be so hard they will feel as its fifty thousand year its not actually fifty thousand years

use this translation its easier:http://www.harunyahya.com/Quran_translation/Quran_translation_index.php

Quote:How long did Allah take to create the earth?

7:54 Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days.

41:9-12
Say (O Muhammad, unto the idolaters): Disbelieve ye verily in Him Who created the earth in two Days ... He placed therein firm hills rising above it, and blessed it and measured therein its sustenance in four Days ... Then He ordained them seven heavens in two Days....

the second verse is also six days its a matter of grammer i dont even know does it mean in english the same but in arabic it means that the earth was created in 2 days and he placed therein firms hills........in 4 days including the first 2 days so they are just 4 days (not 6) then the other 2 days in the creation of the skies(google any commentary on these verses and if it still not clear i will give u an example)
Quote:I think the qur'an has been changed. Parts have been written in to make it look as if you had the knowledge the whole time while your only opting for intellectual dishonesty.
u think???thats not true. get me ur evidence if u r interested enough

Quote:Didn't have the tools to prove it wrong? Huh? So people believed this (in other words they had been tought this) and yet no one bothered to mention it? Makes no sense...AT ALL!
plz dont cut from my sentence i continued saying that they had many other reasons to believe

Quote:I have every reason to believe that it was never in the qur'an before it was discovered by science. That this is intellectual dishonesty in it's finest form.
i respect what u believe and am not here to convince ppl am just sharing my beliefs and love to hear other ppl beliefs.
(May 27, 2010 at 9:28 am)Thor Wrote: If your religion is so wonderful, why are women forced to wear sacks over their heads?
thats not the subject i will make another thread to discuss these misconceptions
Quote:He's the dude that made the site entitled "Miracles of the Qur'an", where he makes claims that the Quran talks about planes, the Big Bang Theory, and lots of other future developments.

i put the verses u can read it yourself
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why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - May 27, 2010 at 7:35 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Ace Otana - May 27, 2010 at 8:14 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - May 27, 2010 at 8:23 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Ace Otana - May 27, 2010 at 8:53 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Dotard - May 27, 2010 at 8:53 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - May 27, 2010 at 11:39 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Ace Otana - May 27, 2010 at 12:17 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - May 27, 2010 at 12:39 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Ace Otana - May 27, 2010 at 12:55 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by tavarish - May 27, 2010 at 12:49 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - May 27, 2010 at 1:04 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Scented Nectar - May 27, 2010 at 1:01 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by tavarish - May 27, 2010 at 1:16 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - May 27, 2010 at 1:35 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Thor - May 27, 2010 at 4:24 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Scented Nectar - May 27, 2010 at 5:24 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by leo-rcc - May 27, 2010 at 9:27 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Thor - May 27, 2010 at 9:28 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Dotard - May 27, 2010 at 10:41 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by padraic - May 28, 2010 at 12:31 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Minimalist - May 27, 2010 at 9:47 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by tavarish - May 27, 2010 at 10:13 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Minimalist - May 27, 2010 at 12:10 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by AtheistPhil - May 27, 2010 at 1:46 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Caecilian - May 27, 2010 at 2:42 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Minimalist - May 27, 2010 at 9:57 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - May 27, 2010 at 10:36 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Minimalist - May 28, 2010 at 12:51 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Ace Otana - May 28, 2010 at 7:43 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Thor - May 28, 2010 at 10:43 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - May 28, 2010 at 10:20 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by leo-rcc - May 28, 2010 at 10:42 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Minimalist - May 28, 2010 at 12:21 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Tiberius - May 29, 2010 at 4:32 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Paul the Human - May 28, 2010 at 10:38 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - May 28, 2010 at 11:14 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Thor - May 28, 2010 at 4:15 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Paul the Human - May 28, 2010 at 10:49 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by SleepingDemon - May 28, 2010 at 3:58 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - May 28, 2010 at 9:09 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Minimalist - May 28, 2010 at 5:52 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Violet - May 28, 2010 at 11:54 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - May 29, 2010 at 3:44 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by downbeatplumb - May 29, 2010 at 5:42 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Violet - May 29, 2010 at 5:45 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by downbeatplumb - May 29, 2010 at 5:59 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Violet - May 29, 2010 at 1:54 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Welsh cake - May 29, 2010 at 6:44 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by downbeatplumb - May 29, 2010 at 9:15 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Ace Otana - May 29, 2010 at 5:13 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Violet - May 29, 2010 at 4:55 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Scented Nectar - May 30, 2010 at 11:32 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - June 4, 2010 at 11:11 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by KichigaiNeko - June 5, 2010 at 2:55 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by downbeatplumb - June 5, 2010 at 7:14 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - June 5, 2010 at 8:44 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by downbeatplumb - June 6, 2010 at 5:58 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - June 6, 2010 at 6:31 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by downbeatplumb - June 6, 2010 at 7:36 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Scented Nectar - June 6, 2010 at 10:11 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Darwinian - June 6, 2010 at 7:53 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - June 6, 2010 at 7:58 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Paul the Human - June 6, 2010 at 8:53 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - June 6, 2010 at 8:57 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by downbeatplumb - June 6, 2010 at 9:06 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Paul the Human - June 6, 2010 at 10:19 am
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - June 6, 2010 at 12:16 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Minimalist - June 6, 2010 at 12:26 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - June 6, 2010 at 12:29 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Paul the Human - June 6, 2010 at 12:34 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - June 6, 2010 at 12:36 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Paul the Human - June 6, 2010 at 12:56 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - June 6, 2010 at 1:10 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Purple Rabbit - June 6, 2010 at 2:04 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by fr0d0 - June 6, 2010 at 1:02 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Paul the Human - June 6, 2010 at 1:20 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - June 6, 2010 at 1:44 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Paul the Human - June 6, 2010 at 1:47 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - June 6, 2010 at 1:58 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - June 6, 2010 at 2:08 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by Violet - June 6, 2010 at 6:21 pm
RE: why i believe in Islam? - by mo3taz3nbar - June 7, 2010 at 2:02 pm

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