RE: Rights and violent aggression.
December 14, 2016 at 11:42 am
(This post was last modified: December 14, 2016 at 11:52 am by paulpablo.)
(December 14, 2016 at 11:31 am)Faith No More Wrote: Anarchists are stupid.
There's not really much more that needs to be said about that.
You're pretty much hit dead center the stereotype Stefan Molyneux talks about.
He often talks about people with no argument who just say things like "That's stupid."
(December 14, 2016 at 9:36 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(December 14, 2016 at 4:19 am)paulpablo Wrote: I think people who believe in capitalism and anarchy believe in the privatisation of road building.
Not that I'm an anarchist myself. I'm all for good old fashioned government built roads.
You're missing my point. No matter what they believe, the fact is, they avail themselves of the very institution they assert they wish to abolish.
If that's your point then I agree. They have no choice but to do that especially in todays society. Their theory (the anarchist capitalists) is that everything is better when privatized because it violates neither of those two principles.
No assertive violent aggression. And keep your promises.
You spoke about roads and the fire service and those could both be privatized. Not that I necessarily think that's a good idea.
But saying that an anarchists arguments are obsolete because they live taking advantages of the services government provides doesn't mean much. There were probably people who benefited from slavery in some way who were against that.
At the moment there's no real way to travel or live without government involvement because the government controls road building and the fire service.
(December 14, 2016 at 4:46 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I think the claim that most rights are a threat of government violence is overstated. The State provides penalties for the violation of the rights of others and for (as Thump intimated) willful violation of the social contract, but the threat of violence from the state - provided one lives in a liberal democracy - is pretty minimal.
In the case of not paying taxes that support education, the violence isn't for not ponying up, it is for resisting arrest, two monumentally different violations. If you don't pay your taxes, you may be fined, have a lien places against your property or income, and so forth. If you don't pay your taxes, it isn't as if jackbooted thugs come to your home and beat you with clubs until you pay.
Boru
But it is always the goal to take money without consent and violence for the resistance if you resist them taking your money. The major governments of the world, their police forces have a duty to always escalate violence until they have the monopoly on it.
I've never heard of the social contract to be honest so I don't have much to say about it.
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