RE: I can feel your anger
July 6, 2012 at 4:05 am
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2012 at 4:18 am by Selliedjoup.)
(July 6, 2012 at 12:57 am)Stimbo Wrote: This is one of the most boring and unimaginative trolls I've ever encountered. Forty-five posts, all in this one thread. As far as I'm concerned the joke's gone way beyond stale.
That you consider me to be a troll, yet still have not addressed my point says more about those here. Only one has managed to admit it, and then gloss over it with an attempt to state that I dislike people in wheelchairs.
If it's stale, and you're not baking, don't eat.
(July 6, 2012 at 1:22 am)Voltair Wrote: Didn't bother to sift through all 18 pages....You're welcome to call yourself agnostic, although I would say you're not as your position outlined above mirrors that of many atheists.
Basically - No atheist can prove 100% that there is no god and no theist can prove that there is one. However without being given evidence I have no reason to place stock in the idea that there is one either.
Whether or not there is a God of any kind is something we can't verify or disprove so we are left at a standstill. I know my religious views says Agnostic but I am still an atheist regarding the Christian, Muslim, and other religions gods. There is no verification and the deist version of God, if he exists, doesn't seem to care whatsoever about identifying himself.
Atheists are not irrational to hold their position anymore than you would be irrational for not believing that unicorns exist. Do these creatures exist? Perhaps but there is no evidence therefore it is rational to conclude they most likely do not exist.
As far as some atheists replacing religion with science there are always extremes. However do not mistake people's passion for religion. People are passionate about science because of what it has provided, continues to provide, and what it can potentially provide in the future. Among these things are answers to interesting questions, cures for diseases, new ways of doing things, and solving various other irritations in life. To be fair faith/prayer, aside from placebo affects + psychological effects, doesn't have any similar benefit.
How is it bad for people to trust in an idea that works?
However I suspect most would throw science off a cliff if it stopped working. If you drop an apple off a cliff and it repeatedly falls you are testing/proving gravity. That is not faith that is called observation and experimentation. If the apple randomly floated up and sometimes fell without any consistency you could say "Well FUCK GRAVITY".
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The terms agnostic theist and agnostic atheist are redundant to me.
If you're an agnostic you have no reason to believe OR disbelieve.
You miss my point too, I never said there is no reason to mistrust science, in fact there is every reason to trust science.
What I've said is giving a scientist's belief more value on the basis of science being objective is odd, and just smells like faith akin to religion. An over-reaction backlash to religion by placing too much belief in science, is still an over reaction.
