RE: Chemical Origin of Life
October 15, 2012 at 12:49 pm
(This post was last modified: October 15, 2012 at 12:50 pm by Darkstar.)
(October 15, 2012 at 12:42 pm)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: To be slightly more serious, matter and the universe require an origin.
Do they? How do you know?
(October 15, 2012 at 12:42 pm)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: Without a great explanation for one, we may want to consider an origin that is outside of the laws and limitations that we're generally able to talk about. In that case, you may not be able to discuss God's origin.
Why? There are theories that do not require god.
(October 15, 2012 at 12:42 pm)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: One definition of God is as the "ultimate cause." Science is not able to find an ultimate cause, nor is such a cause rational. Still, how do you get the chain of caused things if such a cause doesn't exist?
Need there be a cause? Need the cause be a god? You just admitted that to even consider god a possibility would be irrational, and yet...
(October 15, 2012 at 12:42 pm)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: God cannot be known by the inductive process. He is unknowable by direct perception.
Define 'direct perception'. Does he talk to you [even in your mind]? Then you can hear him. Does he show himself to you? Then you can see him. Is he undetectable via the five senses and all technology humanity posseses? Then how can you say he exists?
(October 15, 2012 at 12:42 pm)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: The scientists say there is no God because they are trying to understand Him by direct perception. Scientists are ignorant of God because they are missing the method of knowing Him. In order to understand transcendental science, one must approach a bona fide spiritual master, hear from him submissively and render service to him.
Well, if that wasn't vaguely worded. And how about those who hear nothing? Are they not deluding themselves listening hard enough?
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.