RE: Hall of wit and epicness.
November 22, 2017 at 7:37 pm
(This post was last modified: November 22, 2017 at 7:37 pm by Whateverist.)
(November 22, 2017 at 7:08 pm)Hammy Wrote:(October 18, 2017 at 7:30 pm)Whateverist Wrote: For Hammy who thinks we'd better off closing the forums to theists except the poop lady and her buddy: one of the best posts from a theist ever in my experience on these forums from a few years ago.
Oh I never responded to make it clear that I have never said that we should close these forums to theists and I think that would be awful. I just don't think we should take their religious beliefs seriously when they talk about them, any more than we would take an adult who still believed in Santa seriously when they talked about their belief in Santa. And I can no longer sincerely take their beliefs any more seriously than that without being dishonest which I am unwilling to do and be.
Well I never thought you seriously wanted to close the forums to them. Must have been something about the way you worded whatever I was responding to that led me to say that. But sometimes I get the impression you think the best reason for them being here is for the sport of ridiculing them.
But why can't we take what they say seriously? I have no fear of falling prey to unsound arguments and being converted, do you? As for somethings being stupid, don't we all have blind spots?
I don't agree that the subject is just all stupid and best put behind us. I find the question of why people ever came to believe so strongly in these things interesting. When you look how far back it goes I'm not the first to have wondered what role such beliefs may have played in our becoming such a peculiar chimp.
(November 22, 2017 at 7:08 pm)Hammy Wrote: And far from epic, that post is substanceless as fuck, if a Christian truly believes this "When I talk about Biblical events, I don't mean to say whether or not they happened. I'm just acknowledging that that is what somebody wrote down in a book." then they are someone who identifies as a Christian but is no more Christian than I am. It's vapid bunk.
I think he is alluding to thinking about them figuratively or symbolically as literature. It isn't evident from this passage alone but that was the impression I gathered from the short time he was here. As I remember he said he was a lay brother working in a Jesuit order on a science project. I found him fascinating.