RE: The logical consequences of omnipotence
February 4, 2013 at 1:10 am
(This post was last modified: February 4, 2013 at 1:17 am by Mystical.)
Philip, I like your overview of the thread, it's basically what I concluded but I'm not all that great at overviews. I was simply trying to move on, and get the question answered as I truly was excited to see if any good responses would come of it, then disappointed to find the conclusion as less than preferable. Then to get yet another diluted non-answer from Frodo just, well, you see. I was trying to start a new page cutting back to the heart of the matter, and getting referred back to the assertions I clearly was not happy with was the last thing I was looking for. Not to mention, he's degrading. Regularly. If I perceived him as degrading, it's merely for being programmed to that sort of response from him. Fr0d0: Sorry if you weren't trying to be degrading this time and I perceived you as such!
I'm not good at forgetting what has been said in the past, for each new thread. Perhaps I should work on that Were you referring to this thread in particular? Because I can't see how I was being protective in this particular one (you caught me though! I was blatantly and fiercely in another!). In this thread, I was merely attempting to re-direct the conversation back on topic of answering the question--then yes, I did get sidetracked yet again by the king of sidetracks. But, you're heard loud and clear, I shall attempt not to take personal, what is said. I admit I do have a weakness in that.. I just want straight answers damnit!
I do get annoyed easily when answers are not answered by purposeful contention or diversion, or plain out lack of manners to the cause of answering the questions rather than squabbling over non-related or non-pertinent information--regarding a subject that I truly care about hearing a resolute conclusion to.
In essence, it's been like sitting in the playground with a bunch of kids and when they try to have a serious conversation and one kid is in the corner loud as can be saying,"I know why you're wrong but I'm not going to tell you why you need to figure that out and if you can't you're stupid!" Then everyone starts bickering and nothing gets done. Frustrating to no end..
Oh! And, Welcome Being a new member myself, I haven't been able to say that to anyone yet
Quote:Secondly, and almost unrelated, I'd like to urge missluckie26 not to get too personally involved with this conversation, as I feel as though you may be swaying toward 'protecting' your fiance as it were.
I'm not good at forgetting what has been said in the past, for each new thread. Perhaps I should work on that Were you referring to this thread in particular? Because I can't see how I was being protective in this particular one (you caught me though! I was blatantly and fiercely in another!). In this thread, I was merely attempting to re-direct the conversation back on topic of answering the question--then yes, I did get sidetracked yet again by the king of sidetracks. But, you're heard loud and clear, I shall attempt not to take personal, what is said. I admit I do have a weakness in that.. I just want straight answers damnit!
I do get annoyed easily when answers are not answered by purposeful contention or diversion, or plain out lack of manners to the cause of answering the questions rather than squabbling over non-related or non-pertinent information--regarding a subject that I truly care about hearing a resolute conclusion to.
In essence, it's been like sitting in the playground with a bunch of kids and when they try to have a serious conversation and one kid is in the corner loud as can be saying,"I know why you're wrong but I'm not going to tell you why you need to figure that out and if you can't you're stupid!" Then everyone starts bickering and nothing gets done. Frustrating to no end..
Oh! And, Welcome Being a new member myself, I haven't been able to say that to anyone yet
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.