(March 22, 2013 at 7:16 am)mo66 Wrote: Not really. Real debates can and do happen. You cannot just have a debate about Creationism, if you want to challenge Creationism than you are calling into question the entire religion and so you must enter into a debate about the truthfulness of the actual religion. For example, I believe God created Adam and Eve. Why do I believe this? Because I believe in the Qur'an. But why do I believe that? Now we're talking. The whole discussion hinges upon the validity of the holy texts as a source do you not agree?
I've had countless fruitful debates with Atheists about Islam, the fact that I believed in miracles doesn't get in the way of the debate concerning the validity of the religion.
Oh, I know one can have debates, and good ones, about these things. I've had a few here. The problem, as far as I see it, is that there's always this lurking escape clause for theists when things get too heated, that god can perform miracles, or that he's beyond us humans. And that takes the debate into the realm of fan fiction. It's unfortunate, though of course, I know not all theists go there. I just get kind of disappointed when they do.
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