(August 6, 2013 at 11:15 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Why are they being inconsistent? Well, they should ask themselves this: "have I ever had sexual feelings for the same gender?" If the answer is "no", then that means two things:
(1) oddly, homosexuality is a choice, yet *they* themselves are excluded from apparently being able to make said choice.
(2) if (1) is true, then it means for as long as they've known, their orientation was out of their control if they can't seem to ever have a sexual attraction for their own gender.
Okay, we understand this to be true, we know that this choice shit is kind of irrational, but I think you're missing the sheer power of theistic magical thinking.
I think the source of the logical disconnect here is that, to a theist this actually has nothing to do with sex at all, since most religions tend to treat any sexual activity the same way. No, to the people broaching this choice argument, the choice they're thinking of isn't heterosexuality vs homosexuality, it's piety vs sin. To them, the reason they haven't had any attractions to the same gender is because they are saved, they aren't afflicted with sin, they are strong enough to deny lust to the point that the devil won't even try to give them homo cooties.
Homosexuality being a choice, to them, has nothing to do with logic at all, it's simply a byproduct of their theology; homosexuality must be a choice because it's a sin, and all sins need to be, at root, choices, because they can't square the idea of god creating people with sinful natures.
It's the reason why, on the other hand, you've got the "love the sinner, hate the sin" folks, whose beef is mainly with homosexual sex, and have no issue with celibate gays; it's just a particularly bad variant of the larger sin of sexual pleasure, to them.
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